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Are you listening, Steve Jobs?

July 20, 2011 by Jess

UPDATE #2: Click here for updates on the fake Apple store, with video footage.

UPDATE #1: To address the main issue that people have been getting all bent out of shape about: the stores I photographed do not appear to be authorized Apple sellers. The list of resellers in Kunming that Apple’s website has published does not include the locations that I photographed. An employee at the main store photographed has confirmed that it is not an authorized reseller. Apple itself has confirmed that it is a fake.

I will not be publishing on this blog the addresses of the stores I photographed – if you live in China, you’ll understand why. Feel free to email me at birdabroadblog [AT] gmail [DOT] com.

*****

The Western news media is replete with pithy descriptions of the rapid changes taking place in China: China has the world’s fastest growing economy. China is undergoing remarkable and rapid change. This represents a unique moment for a society changing as quickly as China.

You probably read such things in the paper every day – but if you have never been to China, I’m not sure you know quite what this means on a mundane level. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere on this blog, in the 2+ years that RP and I have been in our apartment, much of the area around us has been torn down, rebuilt, or gutted and renovated – in some cases, several times over. I had the thought, only half-jokingly, that when we returned from a couple months abroad, we might not be able to recognize our apartment building. Or that it might not be there at all.

As it turns out, my fears were baseless – our scrappy little home remains. The neighborhood, however, has definitely kicked it up a notch or seven. Starbucks has opened not one, but THREE branches (that I encountered) within a 10 minute walk of one another. An H&M has opened across from our apartment building. These are the kinds of major Western brands that were previously only represented in Kunming by fast food chains like McDonald’s and KFC. Our neighborhood has quickly become the swanky shopping center of the city.

So when we strolled down a street a few blocks from our house a couple weeks ago, I was only sort of surprised to see this new place, one that any American of my generation can probably recognize instantaneously:

It’s an Apple store!

Or is it?

RP and I went inside and poked around. They looked like Apple products. It looked like an Apple store. It had the classic Apple store winding staircase and weird upstairs sitting area. The employees were even wearing those blue t-shirts with the chunky Apple name tags around their necks.

We proceeded to place a bet on whether or not this was a genuine Apple store or just the best ripoff we had ever seen – and to be sporting, I bet that it was real.

I know, you guys are laughing: an Apple store in Kunming? No one who doesn’t know me personally has ever heard of Kunming before. Kunming is the end of the Earth. It’s all true – but seriously, China warps your mind into believing that anything is possible, if you stay here long enough. When we went back to this store 5 days later and couldn’t find it, having overshot by two blocks, I seriously thought that it had simply been torn down and replaced with a bank in the mean time – hey, it’s China. That could happen.

You have already guessed the punchline, of course: this was a total Apple store ripoff. A beautiful ripoff – a brilliant one – the best ripoff store we had ever seen (and we see them every day). But some things were just not right: the stairs were poorly made. The walls hadn’t been painted properly.

Apple never writes “Apple Store” on it’s signs – it just puts up the glowing, iconic fruit.

The name tags around the necks of the friendly salespeople didn’t actually have names on them – just an Apple logo and the anonymous designation “Staff”. And of course, Apple’s own website will tell you that they only have a few stores in Beijing and Shanghai, opened only recently; Apple famously opens new stores painstakingly, presumably to assure impeccable standards and lots of customer demand.

Is this store a copy of one of those in Beijing? A copy of a copy in another Chinese city? A copy of a copy of a copy?! While you’re pondering that, bear in mind: this is a near-perfect ripoff of a store selling products that were almost unknown when we first came to China. My white MacBook was likely to draw only blank stares or furrowed brows as I sat gnashing my teeth trying in vain to get a piece of Chinese software to run on it.

Being the curious types that we are, we struck up some conversation with these salespeople who, hand to God, all genuinely think they work for Apple. I tried to imagine the training that they went to when they were hired, in which they were pitched some big speech about how they were working for this innovative, global company – when really they’re just filling the pockets of some shyster living in a prefab mansion outside the city by standing around a fake store disinterestedly selling what may or may not be actual Apple products that fell off the back of a truck somewhere.

Clearly, they had also been told that above all, they must protect the brand. As I took these photos I was quickly accosted by two salespeople inside, and three plain clothes security guys outside, putting their hands in my face and telling me to stop taking photographs – that it wasn’t allowed. And why wasn’t it allowed? Because their boss told them so.

I…may or may not have told them that we were two American Apple employees visiting China and checking out the local stores. Either way, they got friendlier and allowed me to snap some pictures.

And the best part? A ten minute walk around the corner revealed not one, but TWO more rip-off Apple stores.

Some store managers may have dozed off briefly during certain parts of the lecture on How to Completely Ignore Intellectual Property Rights:

Anyone from Apple want to come down to Kunming and break open a can of IPR whoop-ass?

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1,016 Responses

  1. on July 20, 2011 at 12:22 am pigletruth

    Hey Jessica totally excellent entry. In the end by the way we will be in Hangzhou not Kunming. But thanks for all the advice and info you have given us.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:10 pm Colin

      I lived in Kunming in 1986. Cassette tapes of John Lennon’s Imagine album were a hot black market item, knocked off and copied extensively.

      Wow Now they are knocking off Apple Stores!! Go figure.

      The parking dump across from my house in Denver Colorado was knocked down and replaced by a lovely park a few years back. It was recently named the “city of Kunming” park. The Chinese officials brought large standing stones from Kunming to Colorado and placed them in the park.

      The stones represent and emanate a peace, calm, wisdom and serenity.

      In a surreal way the Internet and I phone culture represent frantic, manic,
      information overload and a dependency on gadgets to communicate.

      Somewhere in this comment there is a paradox but I will have to ask
      Steve Jobs to give me an app to figure it out.

      Best wishes C.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 4:27 am Nate

        > I lived in Kunming in 1986. Cassette tapes of John Lennon’s Imagine album > were a hot black market item, knocked off and copied extensively.

        > Wow Now they are knocking off Apple Stores!!

        That’s progress for you.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 5:40 am David

        I live in Kunming a few years ago and now live in Nanning. We have an “Apple” store at the Admiral City Mall which I now assume is also a fake.


      • on August 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm Tim

        Can this store really be authorised? I took its photo in Kunming today.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 1:25 pm Kazuya Endo

      00 ! Now that is amazing to imitate.
      Would not mean any harm. A small wonder of the world.

      Many countries know if countries take to communicate wit
      h other people will know that this is a bad thing.
      ******************************


  2. on July 20, 2011 at 12:43 am BirdAbroad

    Aw, too bad we’re not going to see you here! But I hear that Hangzhou is wonderful. Enjoy, and safe travels!


    • on July 21, 2011 at 5:02 am Jebs O'Rourke

      Hangzhou is absolutely amazing! I was lucky enough to spend a month there last year. On a clear day xihu is a great place to go and the 4 storey electronics shopping mall is an interesting experience.
      It will be interesting to see what Lanzhou has in store for me in a couple of months…


    • on July 22, 2011 at 3:55 pm viscabarcelona

      I’m from Barcelona (Spain) I have been working for months in Suzhou (80 km from Shanghai) and I’ve seen two Apple stores such as Kunming. Besides it is very easy to purchase iPhones, iPads by 500 to 1000 RMB. When I return I will make photos


      • on July 25, 2011 at 12:19 am Lo

        I’m in Suzhou as well! Where are these Apple Stores? I’d love to go and take some pictures as well to send home.


  3. on July 20, 2011 at 10:39 am sudeep

    I wish i could work for Apple inc… it looks great work environment.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 1:08 pm Great Job

      With those great comprehension and reading skills, there are three locations you can work at!


      • on July 20, 2011 at 5:28 pm Markus Ohyeah

        I lol’ed


      • on July 20, 2011 at 9:09 pm good

        lol. good one! :)


      • on July 20, 2011 at 10:29 pm whytechyck

        LoL!


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:07 am JP

        Yes, you made my morning with this comment! LOL


      • on July 21, 2011 at 3:26 am Adele

        Haha so true :)


      • on July 21, 2011 at 4:36 am Tony Mandarano

        HAHAHA well played


      • on July 21, 2011 at 4:59 am PvB

        LOL :-) ))))


      • on July 21, 2011 at 11:21 am rahulchhiber

        LOL


      • on July 22, 2011 at 1:47 am BeNice

        First of all, the minor grammatical errors in sudeep’s post can be excused considering English is not his primary language. These errors, however, indicate neither comprehension nor reading deficiencies. Furthermore, English is clearly your first and only language so your ending a sentence with a preposition should not be excused.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 5:39 pm JM

        SMACKDOWN! Well played BeNice.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 10:04 pm Corrector

        BeNice: you’re spells you are ;-)


      • on July 23, 2011 at 7:36 am YourTeacher

        BeNice, you just publicly made an idiot out of yourself.

        It’s perfectly valid English to end the sentence with a preposition like “Great Job” did. You are the one who is incapable of writing proper English.


      • on August 1, 2011 at 2:15 pm Pradeep

        Whats wrong with that statement ? I think Sudeep english is as good as my friend Jose’s english !!


      • on September 7, 2011 at 4:35 am weezy

        Funnyyyyy…


      • on September 25, 2011 at 12:25 am ThisGuy

        Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

        -Winston Churchill


    • on July 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm ಶ್ರೀಕಾಂತ್ ಬಿದನೂರ್ಕರ್

      cant stop laughing,,ROFL still..
      looks so identical, ..that even though warned that its fake do you still want to work here…?


      • on August 14, 2011 at 4:40 am Vicki

        Would I work there? Well, I might worry about how long the job would last, but provided that the money wasn’t fake, I think I’d take the job and not ask too many questions.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 9:03 pm Sovique

      Sudeep man, you just make Indians look bad.


      • on July 20, 2011 at 9:51 pm emster

        You’ve ALL been fooled; that’s actually a fake Sudeep.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 2:02 am Martin

        SuDeep was using a western form of communication known as being sarcastic. We think it is fun speak…if that exists…lol…way to go Sundeep…I got it.

        Martin


      • on July 22, 2011 at 12:23 am Shbnkr

        Now listen up boys, theres no such thing as ‘making indians look bad’! india is a free country and and every f****r here has the right to be a nerd or a sadistic. So just stop it with your ‘indians looking bad’ bulls**t. The comments u see up there are just a minor form of cyber-bullying, thats all. :|


      • on July 25, 2011 at 12:52 pm GK

        emster, LOL!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!! OMG!!!!


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:13 am aquacoolzenthil

      Oh man Sudeep….You mad me laugh and cry!!


    • on July 21, 2011 at 3:40 am hehe

      Super High turn over!!!


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:13 pm Pee Pee Pole

      You should go to China, I am sure there will be a new store there any day now…lol


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:14 pm Pee Pee Pole

      You should go to China, I am sure there will be a new store there any day now…lol


    • on July 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm Herbert

      Genius! :)


      • on July 23, 2011 at 12:38 am Alex

        Haha. That was priceless. Good call SuDeep!


  4. on July 20, 2011 at 11:31 am Brandon Derrick

    Very interesting story…China is so full of it sometimes…I wonder what Apple will do..


    • on July 22, 2011 at 1:53 pm andrew

      apple prob won’t be able to do anything about it lolz


    • on July 24, 2011 at 3:38 pm Bijoy

      May be Apple can change their logo with 2 bites taken off the Apple…


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  7. on July 20, 2011 at 12:07 pm Do Nothing

    “I wonder what Apple will do” -> They sell Apple products. What should they do? Nothing. Maybe thank them and just ask them to more clearly show they’re a distributor, and not Apple.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 4:06 pm Icky People

      Apple protects their trademarks, they’re not going to let fake Apple stores exist. These will be closed as quickly as Apple can get the Chinese authorities to act (which might take years).


      • on July 20, 2011 at 8:25 pm Leon Derczynski

        What makes you think that the Chinese authorities believe any law has been broken?


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:46 am yakofujimato

        It may surprise you, but not all police forces in the world are willing to act as private copyright enforcement lackeys for American corporate gluttons.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 12:39 am Daniel

        @yakofujimato—

        You don’t even know the difference between trademarks and copyrights?


      • on July 22, 2011 at 3:08 am Tom

        “These will be closed as quickly as Apple can get the Chinese authorities to act”…China is a communist country, which might imply that the “authorities” allowed the store to open in the first place…


    • on July 20, 2011 at 4:58 pm mikecaine

      How do you know they are genuine Apple products?


      • on July 21, 2011 at 4:37 am Joe User

        Consider what would happen if Apple suggested that they would pull all manufacturing from China? Do you think that perhaps authorities might take a different view of the situation? I do. There is plenty of pocket lining happening by government officials as a result of the manufacturing Apple does in China.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 3:37 pm jigs

        @Joe User:
        If Apple where to pull out all manfacturing from China, Apple products would become far too expensive for anyone of us and Apple would not be allowed to sell products in China.
        And China is about twice the European and US consumer market combined, if not tripled.

        In effect, this would mean Apple products wouldn’t sell as good as they do anymore, giving leeway to (cheaper) Android products, which then would overtake Apple’s marketposition.

        Now… would Apple even think about threatening to pull manufacturing out of China? Me no thinks so..
        Same goes for copyright infringements… they’ll leave it until China is coming by and starts making efforts in upholding rights at all (human~, copyrights… same thing there)


    • on July 20, 2011 at 5:07 pm More brain than post above.

      That comment just hurts my brain. Damnit! If the store is fake do you expect to be genuine (not some stolen or faked) Apple products?
      How about some medicine then? Would you buy a medicine you are not certain it contains the vaccine promised?
      This is a major issue not only for Apple but for the (honest) Western world. Screw those fakes!


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:11 am JP

        WOW! You had me until the “honest Western world part.” We have built our empire on screwing others. The Western world is far from ‘honest’ but is great at protecting the rear ends. Be sure they, we, will do that.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:48 am yakofujimato

        Yeah, it’s so very easy to produce fake iPads and such!


      • on July 21, 2011 at 2:19 am Jon Bonjovi

        Yes, it’s easy to create a fake iPad or fake iPhone but really hard to innovate to make some new. There-in lies the problem with Chinese business tactics.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 8:02 am divebus

        They may have been made in the real factories on the fourth shift.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 12:17 am DA

        JP, comrade, calm down. Putting the word “(honest)” in parentheses indicates the poster believes this theft is a problem for the subset of the Western world that is honest, the inference being that not all Westerners are honest.

        I don’t know why this blog post is titled “Are you listening, Steve Jobs?” As if it’s his prerogative to stop this stuff. Last time I checked, the Chinese government is a totalitarian one. These stores will stay open as long as the government wants them to. Apple, who’s the victim here, could politely ask for them to be shut down but the government may be more interested in the tax revenue and bribes it can extract from a grey-market store like this than protecting the intellectual property of a foreign, US-based company.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 6:13 pm Spoiled Americans

        Honest western world??? lol… is it honest to sell Tylenol 8 times more expensive than the generic no brand paracetamol sold by any drug store which contains exactly the same chemicals???
        You need to travel a bit arround the world befor you start screwing fakes.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 4:19 am Fanny

      “I wonder what Apple will do” > probably nothing at all. Intellectual and copyrights are barely exist in China, the Chinese government is not, and probably cannot do anything about it since the whole fake-products-phenomenon has obviously become an industry, feeding so many uneducated & educated people who wish to earn a fortune as soon as possible. Not to mention the Chinese government doesn’t care for intellectual rights at all.


  8. on July 20, 2011 at 12:11 pm Sergey Mak

    I want one of those ID Holder thing


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  13. on July 20, 2011 at 12:34 pm CK

    I think you are just mis-informed. Overseas Apple licenses Premium Reseller status for retail operations in areas where Apple does not natively operate. In order to be a Premium Reseller you MUST make your store look essentially like an Apple Store. I know of a reseller in India that LOST status despite doing several hundred thousand USD per year in retail sales because their lastest store did not meet the design guidelines. This status is never exclusive, thus you can have multiple stores near by, and none of them could get that much Apple equipment in stock with Apple’s approval. I’d also bet the proces are in line w/ US prices + VAT, which is only possible if they are getting the margins that Apple grants Premium Resellers. Singapore has shops like those, all licensed, as does Delhi, Amsterdam, Berlin, etc.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 12:53 pm Q

      Whilst You’re right about ‘Premium Reseller’ status, Apple also stresses that Premium Resellers do not brand themselves ‘as’ Apple, in any way, shape or form. Premium Resellers in Australia make it abundantly clear that you are purchasing from ‘NextByte’ or ‘Mac1′, but never from Apple themselves. Even thought their storefronts often have that iconic ‘Apple Look’.

      Even if this is a premium reseller, They’re blatantly misrepresenting themselves as Apple.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 1:59 pm Graham K. Rogers

      same in Thailand where the Premium resellers are called iStudio with iBeat (smaller kiosk style) and uStore (academic locations).


      • on July 20, 2011 at 7:01 pm Umut

        Yeah, same in Turkey. And don’t forget that you have to write “Premium Reseller” clearly on the sign to avoid confusion.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 2:27 pm BirdAbroad

      These stores are NOT on the list of Apple’s authorized resellers in China.

      There do appear to be licensed resellers of Apple products in Kunming – most notably, a chain of electronic stores called Xinya. These places always have a sign that says “Authorized Reseller” (although granted, if you wanted to open a store selling knock-off Apple products here tomorrow, I could direct you to any number of places that would happily make you a sign that says “Authorized Reseller”). None of their employees will tell you they work for Apple.

      What these stores are doing is clearly different – they are trying to trick people into thinking this is an actual Apple store. The employees all think they actually work for the American company Apple, when they plainly do not. When these things are true, how are you supposed to trust the store at all? How are you supposed to know if they are real products, regardless of whether or not they seem to be? If you buy a product from one of these places and something goes wrong with it, are you protected in any way? If it bring my computer to the fake “Genius Bar”, is anyone there actually going to be able to do anything about it? I seriously doubt it.

      Places that pretend to be actual Apple stores but can’t provide Apple-level tech support or customer service are not good for the actual company. And the cost of the products is no guarantee of anything – they could easily purchase these products in a less-than-official way and sell them for a giant markup, making an absolute killing.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 10:46 am Kevin Hajek

        Just out of curiosity, I did look and see that there is, in fact, an authorized reseller in Kunming. Could you be so kind as to confirm if the store you mention in this post is or is not the reseller address mentioned on the apple web site?

        http://store.apple.com.au/asia/FMPro?-db=asiachannelweb.fp5&-format=/asia/svclocateresults.html&-lay=web&-sortfield=level&-sortfield=tradingas&viaProduct=3&country=China&-find=

        Thanks!


      • on July 21, 2011 at 10:51 am BirdAbroad

        The stores I photographed are not located at any of the addresses in that list.


      • on August 14, 2011 at 8:24 pm Benny (in China)

        I picked up a new iPod touch from the Apple store in Beijing recently and was descended upon by traders outside the store selling fake products. They hang out right by the main entrance and the management of the store don’t seem to care. The fakes all look identical, but I have it on good authority from a friend (who thought he could save some money and still get himself an iPhone) that the software and operation of the device is pitiful. He has since gone back and bought a proper one!


    • on July 20, 2011 at 2:38 pm Todd

      As an Apple employee, this is not ant Apple Premium Reseller. It doesn’t even look like a proper reseller more like a ghetto version of the Apple Store. For a Apple Licensesd Premium Reseller to keep his/her license they have to strictly meet Apple’s high standards; which you can tell they don’t meet. Btw, when did Apple have a children’s area? We also, have a policy that clear states you a reseller of any kind are not to advertise themselves as an “Apple Store,” also, they have to advertise themselves an Premium Reseller with a black/white sign stating so. PLUS, http://images.apple.com/lae/reseller/apr/ as you can see there are no authorized Premium Resellers any in China or India.

      This is what an Premium Resller is suppose to look like
      http://www.alextsai.com/files/2007/20070531_StudioA/A.jpg


      • on July 20, 2011 at 4:22 pm jackherbert

        Todd, are you sure you’re an Apple employee, or is that just what your boss told you ;)


      • on July 20, 2011 at 4:37 pm nak

        I’m not sure why you’re asking about a childrens’ area, but at least up until about a year ago. I recall most of them having a children’s area. It was usually a short round table with four iMacs, and beanbag-style seats for the kids. The computers were loaded with a dumbed down interface that only had access to childrens’ software. In fact, here’s a photo of me taken about 5 years ago in an Apple store with the childrens’ area over my shoulder on the left. http://gavers.com/private/nak.jpg


      • on July 20, 2011 at 4:52 pm Wilbur Dsouza

        hmm..india does have a premium re seller.. chk out d link of “apple”.. :| no offense
        http://www.apple.com/in/buy/locator/map.html?tySearch=1&viaProduct=2&viaSpecial=-1&strCountry=IND&lat=12.9715987&lng=77.5945627&gCountry=IN&c3=1


      • on July 20, 2011 at 6:10 pm Calum Benson

        The Apple Store in Glasgow certainly still had a children’s area the last time I was in (about a year ago). Can’t remember if my ‘local’ one in Belfast has or not.


      • on July 20, 2011 at 7:23 pm DMW

        The Apple store at Bristol Cabot Circus, UK, has a children’s area of sorts – lowered tables with iMacs loaded up with games. However, that Chinese shop is still fairly obviously a knock off!


      • on July 20, 2011 at 8:51 pm AK

        There are a number of Apple resellers in India.

        You have to go to http://www.apple.com/in/buy/ and search. There are 18 of them in my city alone.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:07 am arielsdrawingjourney

        It is not” Ghetto” it is counterfeit bud. If they put green and dark blue walls and jacked earthing up! That is ghetto my friend this is just counterfeit, it isnt like apple is going to sue them. China makes all sorts of fake products like coach bags, gucci and Louis vuiton products and etc. At least it is probably cheeper than a real one teehee… My whole family has Apple stuff and franky it gets on your nerves like this I pads auto correct! But the point is they can do what they want it’s fake! :3


      • on July 21, 2011 at 3:11 am vs

        Children do not meet the quality standards of Apple? ;)


      • on July 21, 2011 at 3:43 am C

        Some Apple Stores do have children’s areas, like SF’s flagship location on Stockton St., for example.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 4:52 am jonketo

        When the Apple Store opened in University Village Seattle about 10 years ago it had a children’s area and a projector screen with rows of seating for teaching people how to use the software. I haven’t seen many new stores like this, but having purchased items and fixed them under warranty here I can tell you it was a legit store with a children’s area.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 1:27 am Justin

        There are 2 Premium Resellers in Kunming, China, both Xiinya. The Chinese Apple website also states there are 10 Authorized Resellers in the Kunming area.

        http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/location.php?cid=88&keyword=%E6%98%86%E6%98%8E


      • on July 22, 2011 at 2:26 am Some Dude

        I recall them having a children’s area (at a Tampa location) back when they sold eMacs.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 8:38 pm Adele

      There is also no way that Apple would authorize the use of fonts like that – some of them are slightly off. Also, what official Apple retailer is ever called “Apple Store” (or Stoer, as the case may be)? The staircase flooring and the panelled wall are also very un-Apple, there is no way this is a reseller.


  14. on July 20, 2011 at 12:40 pm SuperPC

    I think the reason Apple isn’t doing anything about these stores is because they don’t cost them anything to maintain and they still get profits from the sales because that store is selling Apple products.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 2:27 pm BirdAbroad

      But Apple only makes a profit if the products are legitimately procured from them, no?


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:15 am addicted

        Unless they are stolen, Apple should be making money off them anyways.

        The real question is if those are actually iPads and macs being sold, or Android based knockoffs. Just looking at the images, I think they are the real deal.

        If so, Apple should still be making money of the sale of products, but I don’t think Apple will allow their brand to be diluted by the shoddy stores. Additionally, the authorized resellers around will not be too happy either.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:24 am EieioSoftware

        True, and they are actually costing Apple a TON in bad PR, through poorly made knock-offs passed off as “real”, through bad or incompetent tech support, or through untrained staff passing as experts. This kind of thing could definitely diminish the brand, even if it’s only in an out-of-the-way city in China.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 12:41 am Bud Wise

        I assume you can buy knock-off apple products throughout China. You can certainly buy them (fake iPhones, iPads,) on the Thai-Burma border along with fake everything else.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 1:02 am Thomas Schmidt

      This is a ridiculous idea as the store does neither sell real Apple products (but cleverly produced Chinese knock-offs) nor will it give any money to Apple (because they know what Apple will do about them if they find out). The people who run that store, if Apple’s legal department can do anything about it, will burn in the lowest levels of fake-retail hell. And that hurts a lot!


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:31 am worromot

        >cleverly produced Chinese knock-offs

        Thank you for pointing this out! I just looked at my “iPhone” that I thought I was buying from Apple stateside. And oh horror — it’s made in China. Must be a cleverly produced knockoff.
        What a ripoff. I should alert Apple about those wily Chinese.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 6:00 am Tricia Bolle

        I spend 1/3 of my time working in China and they produce knockoffs that would leave wise Solomon scratching his head from a distance as to which is the real one. I know Chinese who go to the electronics markets in Beijing 中关村 (which locals in their misplaced hubris dub “Silicon Valley” – I spend the other 2/3 of my time in the real Silicon Valley) who often cannot tell if they’re buying the authentic product or a bait-and-switch knock-off. The Chinese knock-offs go write down to the fake brand stamp, packaging, etc. and you don’t usually realize you have a fake until the poor quality comes through in the months, weeks or sometimes days later when your product breaks or otherwise fails. Some “fakes” can also be products that failed factory Q&A inspection that would normally be destroyed, but are instead resold on China’s black markets. IPR is not respected in China in the least, the govt turns a blind eye, and it’s up to the business/consumer integrity of the individual to make a difference. Fortunately, I’ve met many such individuals in China, but it’s difficult when you are inundated not just with daily assaults of branding/IPR infringement but also a social mindset that says it’s okay.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 10:40 pm proof

        Ask yourself this? What is taking Apple legal department so long? Why, its because they know that the product they are selling its not a apple product. Really, ask yourself? Do you think if it was IBM or Microsoft this will happened? NO because their legal team would do something about it because it is a product created by IBM or Microsoft. Apple does not invent anything PERIOD! When you all get it? If if did, then its legal department will be very busy — Apple is a marketing company take what is someone else and sell it with a apple symbol on it.


  15. on July 20, 2011 at 12:42 pm Kye Alan Russell

    Is the Apple gear legitimate? If so, how are they getting their hands on it?
    In order for them to make any profit, they’d have to ether be getting it wholesale (illegally of coures, since Apple vets all resellers) or they’d have to be reselling at higher prices than everyone else.

    lol.


  16. on July 20, 2011 at 12:49 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China | Inside Cellphone

    [...] seems several completely unauthorized “Apple Stores” have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple’s Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding [...]


  17. on July 20, 2011 at 12:50 pm nancy (aka moneycoach)

    Gobsmacked. just.gobsmacked.


  18. on July 20, 2011 at 12:50 pm ASh

    Hello. Anybody THere? Apple are you listening? Just as India and China took our jobs away. Dont tell me they are bleeding Apple.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 9:49 pm emster

      India and China didn’t steal your jobs; you just got too fat, complacent, lazy and unproductive to deserve a place on the payroll.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 4:41 am Joe User

        Not true, I’ve done development in India and it tool 10 Indian workers to make up for a single US or EU worker. Chinese and Indian education is based on wrote learning and creates great assembly line workers but if you’re after innovation you are in for a lot of wasted time and money of you outsource to either.

        Companies are figuring this out in a hurry so I wouldn’t be quite so arrogant about your newly perceived leadership position in the global marketplace.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 9:04 am henryuq

        That’s what happened right there.
        Another thing, the article does not say whether the apple products themselves are fake or not. I suspect they are not, if there was some doubt about the shop itself being a fake Apple shop. If the products themselves are genuine, why would Apple care? Their products are for sale anywhere, people are falling over themselves to buy an iphone, brainwashed and desperate just like…… just like the people in the West. Who cares if some clever salesperson has decided to renovate his retail space to mimick the Apple store concept? He will have made lots of money before the Chinese law gets around to causing him any problems.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 10:52 am Steven

        Are u serious? I agree – India and China didn’t steal anything. However, this has nothing to do with the quality of U.S. workers. U.S. corporations have outsourced everything because of an unwillingness to pay U.S. workers a fair wage. The U.S. government has exacerbated the situation by failing to establish any disincentives for these policies.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:40 pm ASh1

        I agree.. problem with this kind of people is that they think they are the only one who is capable working with Apple. I used to work with one of the pc manufacturer in the use as tech support and this is what I usually heard from them “we stole their job” but guess what? Why are they calling for support if they think they know the job? wink..wink…


      • on July 26, 2011 at 2:26 pm Steven

        @Sto
        Look at the list you just rattled off: health insurance, short and long term disability, unemployment insurance, etc. – these things are just as much a part of the “wage” paid to the U.S. worker as the actual salary. And if U.S. corporations can get a huge labor discount by paying a lower hourly wage AND no benefits, moving production overseas without any consequences, then they will most certainly do so. It’s why U.S. industrial capacity is in the toilet – we don’t make anything anymore. When steel and other heavy industries left, workers were placated with the prospect of being re-trained for the next big age – information. After that happened, those jobs were shipped out, too.

        The bit about U.S. workers being fat and lazy – just part of the pr campaign designed to justify the whole thing.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 9:13 am farble1670

      they didn’t take the jobs. your beloved apple handed them the jobs. the ipad is manufactured in china.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 11:45 pm Sto

        I would like to be more precise.. it’s not unwillingness to pay fair, it’s extreme accounting error to not pay american worker then pay overseas worker twice than it would have cost originally. Partially it is also high employment taxation in the US, the hidden monster US employers are trying to avoid.. how about health insurance and liability coverage and short and long term disability insurance costs that US employers are avoiding? in the end, they are willing to pay a clear amount for an overseas R&D and avoid local scrutiny.. so sad…


      • on July 26, 2011 at 2:33 pm Steven

        @Sto
        Look at the list you just rattled off: health insurance, short and long term disability, unemployment insurance, etc. These things are just as much a part of the “wage” paid to the U.S. worker as the actual salary. And if U.S. corporations can get a huge labor discount by paying a lower hourly wage AND no benefits or safety nets, moving production overseas without any government sanctions, then they will most certainly do so. It’s why U.S. industrial capacity and infrastructure is in the toilet – we don’t make anything anymore. when steel and other heavy industries left, workers were placated with the prospect of being re-trained for the next Big Age – information. However, once this skill shift took place, those jobs were shipped out, too.

        The bit about U.S. workers being fat and lazy – just part of the PR campaign designed to justify the whole thing.


      • on July 26, 2011 at 10:58 pm Sto

        @Steven from @Sto

        Precisely my point. My problem is with moving all (without exception) manufacturing jobs to overseas. I firmly believe that it is an accounting gimmick, that turns out to be very strategic error and mistake to think that this is savings..

        in two words: turn back..


  19. on July 20, 2011 at 12:59 pm sturm@ellipson.com

    Maybe this could be behind these stores?
    —
    Yen-Shyang Hwang, Taipei; Jessie Shen, DIGITIMES [Friday 28 January 2011]

    Cybermart International, a major retail chain in China and a member of the Foxconn Group, has obtained the status as a first-grade distributor for Apple’s products in the Greater China area.

    Cybermart plans to set up 500 Apple licensed retail shops in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan, according to company chairman Steve Chang. The first store will be opened in Tianjin on April 1, 2011.

    Cybermart has 34 outlets around China currently. The IT retail chain expects to add 7-8 stores in 2011.

    Parent Foxconn is a major supplier for Apple.
    —


    • on July 20, 2011 at 9:45 pm Loopychew

      I’ve been to the Cybermart Taipei shop and it’s a small store which is branded as an Authorized Reseller, not as an Apple Store.


  20. on July 20, 2011 at 1:02 pm audi

    As we all are aware, Apple will sue anyone if they did not get the agreement endorsed with Apple. Guys, please grow up and be civilised about your rumours. I know the West always like to paint great pictures about themselves and talk bad on others. Maybe it is time for China totally cut off most of the trades with those countries that like to dictate and interfere on people business. They are the biggest bullies on the planet. China should sell all their bonds, and we shall see what would happen to them. I can’t wait for China to take such measures.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 4:10 pm Icky People

      Yes, China should cut off their only income. It would be good for the rest of the world and horrible for China.

      What an intelligent post.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 12:18 am Adam

        They could do perfectly well using Euros instead of Dollars.

        The USA is probably one of the biggest forces for evil in recent history… If the wars don’t convince you or them storming into a sovereign country to rm /bin/laden without the permission of the government (followed by them blackmailing Pakistan by withholding aid due to the ‘difficult’ political situation caused by their act of extra judicial murder) don’t convince you, I don’t know what will.

        I’m British and we’ve been dragged into two of their ill-conceived wars of aggression against the wishes of the people, I for one would not be sorry if North America sank tomorrow, heh.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:18 am addicted

        Adam, considering that most of China’s wealth is held in dollars, a depreciation in the dollar value (which will be caused by moving to the Euro) will hurt China more than anyone else.

        Additionally, the Euro zone is an economic landmine right now. The contagion there is getting so bad that Italy is being threatened (Italy, incidentally, has a larger economy than India). Moving to Euros won’t do anything.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 11:33 am Steven

        “I for one would not be sorry if North America sank tomorrow, heh.”
        Wow, Adam, for someone who apparently fancies himself a student of politics, you dispaly a severely truncated memory. I seem to remember that al Qaeda has wreaked quite a bit of havoc on your little island – seems you’d be rejoicing in Mr. bin Laden’s demise, however it came about. But you are too busy spouting indignation on behalf of the most notoriously imperialist nation the world has ever produced. How about the exploits of the British army in 19th century southern Africa? And don’t tell me the Special Air Service has not violated the sovereignty of one country or another or several. BTW, lest we forget, this “force for evil” has found it necessary to sail across the pond not once, but twice to rescue your sorry asses from your German cousins. North America also includes Canada, which also has never hesitated, at great cost, to rush to the Queen’s aid. I would suggest you review and consider your history before you begin recklessly listing things you would not be sorry about.


      • on July 25, 2011 at 3:16 pm ifly6

        “forces of evil”? Say that when we come saving you from the Soviets (and nukes). Say that when we save you from the Nazis. Say that when you attack us twice trying to reclaim your “colonies”. Say that when AMERICAN scientists develop the computer you’ll be working on in a few years. Say that when we make your GPS and your cell phone satellites. Say that when we FUND YOUR WWII with SHIPS, PLANES, and PEOPLE. You dragged us into 2 ill-conceived wars of aggression (against US). How about the Panama Canal (oh, the USA built it). How about 1/2 the systems in your military (oh, the US developed it). The USA is the biggest force of good in the last million years on this planet. We give away more dollars than twice your country does.
        Okay, now I’m just rambling but hopefully, you get the point.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:27 am John

      1. Yes; Apple must protect it’s brand and image and should use all means possible, including the courts.
      2. Yes; cut-off all trade between China and USA and any other country that agrees that if they spend the time and money to create products, it is unlawful for manufacturers in China to blatantly copy the product.
      3. It is unfortunate that your news is censored. We “bully” for what we believe in.
      4. Please sell the bonds; I want Obama out too!
      Just remember, China’s reign of manufacturing will be short-lived and you will soon be in our position. I can’t wait to see what happens when the African manufacturers are knocking-off Chinese product!! Let the fun begin!!!


    • on July 22, 2011 at 10:42 pm Ivy Leaguer

      For all the armchair economists, do a little research and understand the reason China buys US sovereign debt.

      After you find the CORRECT answer, take a couple of econ courses and go through the Internet and edit all of your idiotic posts about China clenching US’ balls and threatening to sell US sovereign debt.

      Lastly, I will let you in on a little secret. China will be absolutely screwed economically if they even thought about flooding the market with US sovereign debt.


  21. on July 20, 2011 at 1:03 pm Rich

    I’m an American living in Shanghai, and these “Apple Stores”, not to be mistaken for the Genuine Apple Stores here, are around. I have noticed four in Shanghai alone, and it had me thinking. Does Apple have some sort of distribution deal in place, the sort they have with a Best Buy in the US, with some chinese business org? I mean I’m beginning to believe it has to be the reason, especially because one of these store is exactly 1 miles away from the Official Apple store on Huaihai Road. Email me and I can send you images to post!


  22. on July 20, 2011 at 1:16 pm Fake Chinese Apple Store Looks Amazingly Real | Gizmodo Australia

    [...] names on them. And, lastly, the store itself which on close inspection looks shoddy. Craziness. [Birdabroad via [...]


  23. on July 20, 2011 at 1:16 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China | On-Call Pros, LLC

    [...] 2011 No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China by Ryan Carnell It seems several completely unauthorized "Apple Stores" have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple's Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding Asian [...]


  24. on July 20, 2011 at 1:17 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog

    [...] seems several completely unauthorized "Apple Stores" have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple's Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding Asian [...]


  25. on July 20, 2011 at 1:17 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China | Tech News Ninja

    [...] seems several completely unauthorized “Apple Stores” have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple’s Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding [...]


  26. on July 20, 2011 at 1:18 pm Fake Chinese Apple Store Looks Amazingly Real [Apple] | lg ally review

    [...] names on them. And, lastly, the store itself which on close inspection looks shoddy. Craziness. [Birdabroad via ifoapplestore] Article source: [...]


  27. on July 20, 2011 at 1:18 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China - Veletech

    [...] Published by Victor Agreda, Jr. on July 20th, 2011 – in Uncategorized It seems several completely unauthorized "Apple Stores" have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple's Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding Asian [...]


  28. on July 20, 2011 at 1:19 pm David

    All the Apple stores in Israel are knock-offs’, they’re run by a totally independent company called iDigital owned by icon (pun intended?). They however, have an exclusive agreement with Apple to be the only Apple retailers in Israel. Result, absurd prices, lousy service and ignorant “geniuses”, and by the way, lousy penetration of Apple in this country.


  29. on July 20, 2011 at 1:19 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China | iPhone Blog Site

    [...] seems several completely unauthorized “Apple Stores” have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple’s Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding [...]


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  32. on July 20, 2011 at 1:27 pm .:[ d4 n3wS ]:. » Chine : Des faux Apple Store

    [...] au sud-ouest de la Chine” d’après Wikipedia, une blogueuse a découvert… un faux Apple Store avec des faux produits Apple, des faux badges pour le personnel mais avec des employés qui avaient [...]


  33. on July 20, 2011 at 1:29 pm Martin D

    There are plenty of official Apple retailers that don’t run actual “Apple stores”. They’re all over the place in New Zealand where we don’t have any “Apple stores”. I’m not sure I understand the point of this post.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:17 am rahhb

      Those don’t say “Apple Store” and try to be actual Apple Retail Stores. They are generally called Wolfes Autoried Apple Reseller or something fancy dancy, and have their own branding.


  34. on July 20, 2011 at 1:31 pm Counterfeit Apple Stores Popping Up In China

    [...] recently, staffed with blue-shirted employees who believe they actually work for Apple Inc. In a posting today, photos of one fake store show wood display tables, acrylic information panels, wall-mounted [...]


  35. on July 20, 2011 at 1:32 pm gregorylent

    reseller .. probably authorized .. attitude gets in the way of perception


  36. on July 20, 2011 at 1:39 pm kidlj

    That’s totally a rip-off.

    But, can you figure out that if they are selling the _REAL_ Apple products?

    You know, here in China there are a lot fake electronic products, we call that
    “Shanzhai”(山寨 in China).


  37. on July 20, 2011 at 1:47 pm MrEricSir

    When I was in Toluca, Mexico the mall there had an “iShop.” It was very similar to an Apple Store, to the point where people could mistake it for one.

    Here’s a photo I took:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrericsir/5466093365/in/set-72157625980466375


    • on July 21, 2011 at 9:21 pm mrjoeblacc

      Hello, it’s true they are not Apple stores, but those “Mixup iShop” are athorized resellers.. that’s why they look so similar…


  38. on July 20, 2011 at 1:47 pm thaifreedomick

    All the Apple stuff is made there anyway, not like it wouldn’t be hard for these stores to get their hands on the gear.

    Hilarious article, love it, nice work China!


  39. on July 20, 2011 at 1:51 pm 中國不只有假的iPhone,還有假的Apple Store!!! | ifanboy | Apple 中文資訊網

    [...] 看更多照片:http://birdabroad.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/are-you-listening-steve-jobs/ [...]


  40. on July 20, 2011 at 1:55 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China | Discover

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  41. on July 20, 2011 at 1:57 pm pattulus

    Great story Jessica.


  42. on July 20, 2011 at 1:57 pm Daniel

    There are authorized reseller stores but they’re not called “Apple Store”. E.g., in Hong Kong there’s Apple Shop, which is a totally legit reseller. Other places there are authorized resellers with different names, not necessarily with the word “Apple” in it.

    Apple.cn lists authorized resellers:
    http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/location.php?cid=88&keyword=昆明

    If the stores in this blog post aren’t on that list, they could be fake. I wonder if it’s possible that they’re legit resellers registered under different company names but they just put “Apple Store” as their signage.


  43. on July 20, 2011 at 2:00 pm Lirodon

    APPLE STOER


  44. on July 20, 2011 at 2:00 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China | Iphone,Iphone Applications,Iphone Hacks, Iphone News

    [...] seems several completely unauthorized “Apple Stores” have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple’s Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding [...]


  45. on July 20, 2011 at 2:02 pm Kunming Apple Store | I Love China

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  46. on July 20, 2011 at 2:04 pm raaiman

    Many of them in shenzhen too, just in coastal city/nanshan area i think there are no less then 4 of these fake apple stores all in walking distance!


  47. on July 20, 2011 at 2:05 pm China: Komplette Apple Stores bis ins Detail kopiert | ifun.de :: Alles über Apples Lifestyle-Produkte

    [...] hängt die Beschriftung “Apple Stoer” unter dem Apfel-Logo. Weitere Bilder gibt es im BirdAbroad-Blog. (via [...]


  48. on July 20, 2011 at 2:06 pm ant

    why would you rip off a store….. I really don’t get it, especially when the locals wouldn’t know that these exist in a much greater form somewhere else in the world… you could make a McDonalds for example and sell Apples (haha) products and they wouldn’t know the difference… would they…..


  49. on July 20, 2011 at 2:08 pm Mandy

    CK, I think it’s you who’s misinformed – yes, there are Premium Apple Resellers but none of them are clear ripoffs of an Apple Store, none of them try to pretend to BE Apple with the shirts and the name tags etc. This is no licenced reseller, it’s a ripoff.


  50. on July 20, 2011 at 2:15 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China | Apple Daily Magazine

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  52. on July 20, 2011 at 2:17 pm China selling fake iPhones through phony Apple Store « iTech Park

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  53. on July 20, 2011 at 2:19 pm winandmac.com – Windows, Mac and more » Fake “Apple Stoer” appears in China Kunming

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  54. on July 20, 2011 at 2:24 pm WoAi

    Yes, CK, that’s nonsense, this is clearly a rip off. Anyone can tell the difference between a reseller and an Apple store. They are not allowed to make the stores look like those in the photo.


  55. on July 20, 2011 at 2:25 pm These Knock-Off Apple Stores in China Will Shock You | iPhone in Canada Blog - Canada's #1 iPhone Resource

    [...] [BirdAbroad via ifoAppleStore] [...]


  56. on July 20, 2011 at 2:25 pm Robbie Dinglasan

    They could have only gotten away with it all the way in Kunming. Wow the last time I was in Kunming it really felt like the back end of China.


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  58. on July 20, 2011 at 2:27 pm Fake Chinese Apple Store Looks Amazingly Real [Apple] | swype for iphone

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  59. on July 20, 2011 at 2:27 pm Chinese counterfeiting extends to full-blown fake Apple retail stores | swype for iphone

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  60. on July 20, 2011 at 2:27 pm winandmac.com香港版 » 內地乜都假之假蘋果商店「Apple Soter」

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    [...] story and images come from BirdAbroad, who recently stumbled upon these three retail stores, which are all in walking distance of each [...]


  63. on July 20, 2011 at 2:31 pm China not only fakes iPhones… but Apple Stores, too! | Apple Store Valencia

    [...] stores? Surprising almost no one, China is indeed home to the fake Apple Store. These pictures from BirdAbroad (via IFOAppleStore), show a fake Apple Store complete with everything that a real Apple Store [...]


  64. on July 20, 2011 at 2:35 pm pigletruth

    By the way Jessica I posted a link to your piece on Googleplus and it is getting a lot of reactions. If u want an invite to join G+ send me yr email.
    Good luck and sorry we aren’t going to meet up in KM but maybe elsewhere (Israel? Shanghai?)
    All the best


  65. on July 20, 2011 at 2:41 pm Nanning

    We have a few of these in Nanning
    I always find it interesting how many people come forward and try to justify the breach in IPR on behalf of the Chinese.
    Suggesting that they are licensed resellers – Yeah right!
    That is just what the Chinese want- Confused Laowai’s


  66. on July 20, 2011 at 2:44 pm Chinese counterfeiters kick it up a notch with fake Apple stores | The UberReview

    [...] [Bird Abroad via Apple Insider] /* */ blog comments powered by Disqus /* [...]


  67. on July 20, 2011 at 2:44 pm Fake Chinese Apple Store Looks Amazingly Real | Tech News In Australia

    [...] names on them. And, lastly, the store itself which on close inspection looks shoddy. Craziness. [Birdabroad via [...]


  68. on July 20, 2011 at 2:48 pm [Sammelthread] *** "der neue" Mac-Quatsch-Thread *** [Part 17] - Seite 78 - Forum de Luxx

    [...] [...]


  69. on July 20, 2011 at 2:51 pm Counterfeit Apple Stores begin to open in China - TNW Apple

    [...] Blogger Birdabroad took the photos in question and was initially stopped by staff when she started to snap shots of the store itself. However, once she explained she was an Apple employee visiting from the US (lying, of course), the staff became friendly and allowed her to take shots of the staff, products and store itself. [...]


  70. on July 20, 2011 at 2:55 pm Counterfeit Apple Stores begin to open in China | Apple Store Valencia

    [...] Blogger Birdabroad took the photos in question and was initially stopped by staff when she started to snap shots of the store itself. However, once she explained she was an Apple employee visiting from the US (lying, of course), the staff became friendly and allowed her to take shots of the staff, products and store itself. [...]


  71. on July 20, 2011 at 2:56 pm Nieuws: In China zelfs FAKE Apple Stores « Talk About Apps

    [...] je foto's zien hoe het er uit ziet? Zie dan de site van BirdAbroad. Tweet Geëtiketeerd als: Apple Store, China, Fake Laat een reactie achter Reacties [...]


  72. on July 20, 2011 at 2:58 pm Fake apple stores « Wobbits

    [...] Comments Hacker News [...]


  73. on July 20, 2011 at 3:02 pm These Knock-Off Apple Stores in China Will Shock You - Phone-stuff

    [...] [BirdAbroad via ifoAppleStore] [...]


  74. on July 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm WordPress UK »  Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad

    [...] here: Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad hopfeed_affiliate='fwsjay'; hopfeed_affiliate_tid=''; hopfeed_cellpadding=5; [...]


  75. on July 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm Chińczycy podrobili nawet Apple Store — Maćkofff.waw.pl

    [...] BirdAbroad – Are you listening, Steve Jobs? ↩ [...]


  76. on July 20, 2011 at 3:09 pm Ralf Frankiewicz

    apple stoer…..


  77. on July 20, 2011 at 3:10 pm Китай подделывает не только iPhone … Apple Store ничем не хуже | FreshApples.ru

    [...] домом поддельных App Store. На этих фотографиях от BirdAbroad показаны фейковые магазины Apple в комлекте со всем, что [...]


  78. on July 20, 2011 at 3:14 pm Apple Store en China… ¡también falsas! | Applesencia

    [...] pero eso va todavía más lejos: copias de las Apple Store de la compañía de la manzana. En el blog BirdAbroad se han publicado imágenes de Kunming, en China, donde se puede ver una Apple Store con todo lo que se puede ver en cualquier tienda de [...]


  79. on July 20, 2011 at 3:18 pm Китай прошел путь от копий iPhone до копии целого Apple Store — MacRadar

    [...] courtesy of Bird a Broad Photo courtesy of Bird a [...]


  80. on July 20, 2011 at 3:19 pm + 125 % | Pizzeriaitalia

    [...] level of fakes” non bastava l’iPhone tarocco, no! Proprio l’Apple Store falso!! (link) This entry was posted in Apple, Bellimbusti, etica, humor, Persone con cui dividiamo il pianeta, [...]


  81. on July 20, 2011 at 3:19 pm Fake Apple store in Kumming, China. | WASF™ wearesuperfamous

    [...] From Birdabroad. [...]


  82. on July 20, 2011 at 3:20 pm Counterfeit Apple Stores begin to open in China | 1FENS

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  83. on July 20, 2011 at 3:25 pm Martin

    Great … wait tll they fake Steve himself for a press conference in China :)


  84. on July 20, 2011 at 3:26 pm Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad | Wordpress Develop

    [...] Visit link: Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad [...]


  85. on July 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm Counterfeit Apple Stores begin to open in China | | Daily Gizmo NewsDaily Gizmo News

    [...] Blogger Birdabroad took the photos in question and was initially stopped by staff when she started to snap shots of the store itself. However, once she explained she was an Apple employee visiting from the US (lying, of course), the staff became friendly and allowed her to take shots of the staff, products and store itself. [...]


  86. on July 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad

    [...] the original post: Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad Tags: apple, apple-stores, china, seems-multiform, [...]


  87. on July 20, 2011 at 3:40 pm Fake Apple Store In China Looks Like The Real Apple Store » Geeky Gadgets

    [...] on over to the Bird Abroad for lots more details on these fake Apple stores, apparently there are a total of three within a [...]


  88. on July 20, 2011 at 3:50 pm bruceleevscheese

    Intellectual property?

    In a communist country?

    Dear China, here is the money we owe you.

    Minus IP fines.


  89. on July 20, 2011 at 3:57 pm Fake Chinese Apple Store! « iBrokemyiPhone

    [...] to the blog BirdAbroad (via ifoAppleStore), several counterfeit Apple stores have popped up in Kunming, China. One such location featured a winding staircase and employees in [...]


  90. on July 20, 2011 at 3:59 pm The Ultimate Chinese Apple Clone | Occasionally Useful

    [...] its work cut out combating Chinese clones of it’s hardware products, you will be stunned by this blog entry of BirdAbroad, who works in the Chinese city of Kunming. Walking down the street one day, she [...]


  91. on July 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm Te engañan como chinos : Canal #Mac del IRC Hispano

    [...] información: Birdabroad {lang: 'es'}ComparteCompartirPost relacionadosPrimeras quejas “oficiales” contra [...]


  92. on July 20, 2011 at 4:05 pm Fakead Apple Store i Kina | iPortal

    [...] birdabroad.wordpress.com [...]


  93. on July 20, 2011 at 4:05 pm Apple Store falsas en China : Planeta Mac, noticias sobre Mac

    [...] Visto en BirdAbroad [...]


  94. on July 20, 2011 at 4:05 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | Technology Blog

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  95. on July 20, 2011 at 4:06 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email this | Comments Engadget answersdiscover.com Link to this [...]


  96. on July 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm Atlantis | The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email this | Comments ShareFacebookEmailPrint Posted on July 20, 2011 by [...]


  97. on July 20, 2011 at 4:11 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China « Geek City

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  98. on July 20, 2011 at 4:11 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | PCE Groups, LLC

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  99. on July 20, 2011 at 4:11 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China « WEBLICIT

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  100. on July 20, 2011 at 4:11 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China « Cyber Nation

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  102. on July 20, 2011 at 4:13 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | All Things Hack

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  103. on July 20, 2011 at 4:15 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | RicciAngel News

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email this | Comments This entry was posted in Technology & Gadget [...]


  104. on July 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm ukoda

    The Apple store on the main street of Jiaxing is a bit smaller. The real give away is the Android phones and tablets at one end. Still they had good Apple product too.


  105. on July 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | Thats Bad Ass!

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  106. on July 20, 2011 at 4:17 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | DigiMpire

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email this | Comments Tags: brave new world, world posters, dog tags, apple [...]


  107. on July 20, 2011 at 4:17 pm OPISO » The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email [...]


  108. on July 20, 2011 at 4:18 pm Apple Store falsas en China | Apple Store Valencia

    [...] Visto en BirdAbroad [...]


  109. on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 pm China: Auch die Fake-Apple-Stores sehen wie das Original aus

    [...] Und genau so etwas hat eine Bloggerin entdeckt, die ihre Erlebnisse in China unter dem Namen BirdAbroad dokumentiert und durch die Straßen von Kunming (Südchina) [...]


  110. on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 pm Luke

    Where they actually selling real Apple stuff?


  111. on July 20, 2011 at 4:21 pm PrankVids news collection

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email this | Comments [...]


  112. on July 20, 2011 at 4:22 pm Fake Chinese Apple Store Looks Amazingly Real [Apple] - dotmem.com | random technology news, one post at a time

    [...] names on them. And, lastly, the store itself which on close inspection looks shoddy. Craziness. [Birdabroad via ifoapplestore]Article source: [...]


  113. on July 20, 2011 at 4:24 pm Daniel

    That’s incredible. The Chinese are doing incredible things here in my working-class neighborhood of Madrid, and they’re a small minority. I can only imagine what goes on when they’re in their own country!


  114. on July 20, 2011 at 4:28 pm === popurls.com === popular today

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    yeah! this story has entered the popular today section on popurls.com…


  115. on July 20, 2011 at 4:28 pm L’imitazione dell’Apple Store, dove se non in Cina? | TechZilla.it

    [...] Fonte: BirdAbroad Tweet [...]


  116. on July 20, 2011 at 4:31 pm The Acoustic Strings

    Great article. Having spent a year in Korea many years ago, I had a similar experience with McDonald’s, Wendy’s, etc.


  117. on July 20, 2011 at 4:37 pm zeten

    这就是中国。政府和商人充满谎言和欺骗,但是中国人还是很友善的,虽然他们的信仰只有金钱。我是个中国人英文很差,这段话我是用google翻译的,sorry!


  118. on July 20, 2011 at 4:37 pm Axx

    Fake it till you make it!


  119. on July 20, 2011 at 4:38 pm zeten

    This is China. Government and business full of lies and deceit, but the Chinese people are still very friendly, although their faith is only money. I am a Chinese, English is poor, so I used this google translation, sorry!


  120. on July 20, 2011 at 4:41 pm Primero fue el iPhone chino ahora la Apple Store falsa | [ Neuronal Training ]:

    [...] La persona que logró tomas las fotos lo describe como idéntico a las tiendas de la marca Apple ubicadas en Beijing y Shanghai, pero con una infraestructura inferior. [...]


  121. on July 20, 2011 at 4:46 pm Anonymous

    [...] LAdenkette nachbauen um dort dnan die nachgebauten Produkte zu verkaufen, das hat dann doch was: It looked like an Apple store. Warum auch nicht. Gut kopiert ist besser als schlecht selbst gebaut… Ähnliche [...]


  122. on July 20, 2011 at 4:49 pm China no sólo falsifica iPhones, también Apple Stores [EN]

    [...] China no sólo falsifica iPhones, también Apple Stores [EN] birdabroad.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/are-you-listening-ste…  por radio0 hace 2 segundos [...]


  123. on July 20, 2011 at 4:50 pm Melissa Joosten

    This is only possible in China …


    • on July 21, 2011 at 7:31 pm Triumphzhao

      how could you know it’s not an authorized apple store? from the article?
      see blow links if you can read chinese, thank you.
      http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/location.php?cid=88&keyword=昆明
      if the store in the article is not one from above stores, that’s really a problem.


  124. on July 20, 2011 at 4:51 pm CHINE. Après les faux iPhone, les faux Apple Store ! | golem13

    [...] Published on juillet 20, 2011 with No Comments Share>Nous connaissions les faux iPhone made in China, voici maintenant les faux Apple Store ! Tout y est identique, même façade, même design intérieur, même les vendeurs sont habillés à l’identique (avec badge d’identité !). Lire l’article de 9to5mac.com et via [...]


  125. on July 20, 2011 at 4:55 pm Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad | jwuventure

    [...] via Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad. [...]


  126. on July 20, 2011 at 4:59 pm Atlantis | No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China

    [...] seems several completely unauthorized “Apple Stores” have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple’s Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding [...]


  127. on July 20, 2011 at 5:00 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | Iphone,Iphone Applications,Iphone Hacks, Iphone News

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  128. on July 20, 2011 at 5:02 pm China fälscht jetzt ganze Apple-Stores | GeekStream.de

    [...] Bilder der Internetseite BirdAbroad zeigen einen komplett ausgestatteten Store in der Stadt Kunming im originalen Apple Design, mit [...]


  129. on July 20, 2011 at 5:02 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | The Bob Clark

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  130. on July 20, 2011 at 5:03 pm The biggest fake of all – counterfeit Apple store in Kunming, China | Gadgets Magazine Philippines

    [...] BirdAbroad Tweet Share Filed Under: Hot off the Press Tagged With: apple products, apple store, [...]


  131. on July 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm Fake Apple Stores in China | BENM.AT

    [...] BirdAbroad zeigt Bilder von einem Apple Store aus China der bis in die letzten Details einem Original gleicht. Am Eingang prangt ein großes Apple Logo, die Mitarbeiter sind mit den typischen blauen T-Shirts bekleidet, die Produkte werden auf den minimalistischen Holztischen präsentiert und an den Wände hängen die Produktposter. Auch ein Bereich für die Schulung durch Apple Mitarbeiter fehlt ebenso wenig wie obligatorischen Softwareregale. [...]


  132. on July 20, 2011 at 5:11 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new!

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  133. on July 20, 2011 at 5:15 pm Besides Fakes iPhones, Fake Apple Store Also Spotted in China [Pictures] | TechnoBolt

    [...] to the blog BirdAbroad (via ifoAppleStore), several counterfeit Apple stores have popped up in Kunming, China. One such location featured a winding staircase and employees in [...]


  134. on July 20, 2011 at 5:20 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | Dominic Fallows

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email [...]


  135. on July 20, 2011 at 5:22 pm Die chinesische Apple-Store-Kopie | TechFieber | Smart Tech News. Hot Gadgets.

    [...] [Link] tweetmeme_style = 'compact'; tweetmeme_url = 'http://www.techfieber.de/2011/07/20/die-chinesische-apple-store-kopie/'; Share [...]


  136. on July 20, 2011 at 5:22 pm Après les copies chinoises, voici les faux Apple Store ! – iPhonote

    [...] c’est lors d’un périple en Chine, que le bloggeur de BirdAbroad a découvert la supercherie avec cette copie grandeur nature d’un Apple Store nommé Apple [...]


  137. on July 20, 2011 at 5:23 pm Kina har mer än bara förfalskade iPhone | iPhoneguiden.se

    [...] har kommit över bilder från BirdAbrod som visar en Apple Store i Kina, bakom allt detta visar det sig dock att butiken inte ingår i [...]


  138. on July 20, 2011 at 5:23 pm Des faux Apple Stores en Chine | Belgium iPhone

    [...] pays comporte également de faux Apple Stores. C’est une information révélée par le blog BirdAbroad. Son auteur, en visite dans ces contrées, explique avoir découvert, par hasard, une boutique [...]


  139. on July 20, 2011 at 5:23 pm จัดเต็ม+ ที่จีนไม่ใช่ปลอมเฉพาะ iPhone เท่านั้น! ร้าน Apple Store ก็ด้วย!! | iMaiCafe

    [...] (ตามกระแส Google+) ข้อมูลจากเว็บไซต์ BirdAbroad [...]


  140. on July 20, 2011 at 5:26 pm Mat

    Why should this be a genuine Apple Store when there’s only 4 (in words: four) of those in China:
    http://www.apple.com.cn/retail/storelist/

    We shall see how long it will be existing. As far as I can say, this should be over as soon as chinese officials support Apple, once the company has made clear that this is not ok/allowed.


  141. on July 20, 2011 at 5:30 pm Más falso que Judas: las 'otras' Apple Store

    [...] (sic). Increíble, ¿verdad?. Más fotos debajo. [Vía AppleInsider]Leer 6 ComentariosX CompartirEmailDiggFacebookTwitterYahoo BuzzBitácorasMenéamePermalinkTags: Apple [...]


  142. on July 20, 2011 at 5:35 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | You Pick It...We App It!

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  143. on July 20, 2011 at 5:47 pm Hi_BRID

    すごいなぁ、中国。アップルストアをまるごとコピるなんて。


  144. on July 20, 2011 at 5:48 pm jeff

    There ARE actually Apple Premium Resellers in China, despite what one poster said – there are several in Hong Kong which is part of the country of….can you guess?


  145. on July 20, 2011 at 5:50 pm Boot up: Facebook’s MySQL meltdown, tech giants and patents, and more | Tech Toinks!

    [...] Are you listening, Steve Jobs? >> BirdAbroad [...]


  146. on July 20, 2011 at 5:51 pm In China maken ze zelfs Apple Store na - iPhone - iPhoneclub.nl

    [...] ze een officiële Apple-winkel betreden. Klik hieronder op de foto’s om ze te vergroten. Op BirdAbroad staan meer foto’s.Opvallend genoeg heeft de auteur van het blog wel achterhaald dat de winkel [...]


  147. on July 20, 2011 at 5:58 pm Fake Apple Stores Found in China [Pictures]

    [...] in China for long now. But who knew that some people in China can go beyond the product barrier! BirdAbroad shared some pictures of a fake Apple Store in Kunming, [...]


  148. on July 20, 2011 at 6:01 pm China take Apple fakery to the extreme with fake Apple Stores | BitterWallet

    [...] These photos from BirdAbroad’s blog show a very convincing layout with careful attention paid to staff uniforms and even the furniture, but ultimately she discovers that China’s long tradition of faking Apple products has now stretched to the stores themselves. The most bizarre aspect of the story is that according to BirdAbroad, all the staff believe they’re actually working for Apple. [...]


  149. on July 20, 2011 at 6:03 pm TechSpotting

    Hahaha so good, Steve Jobs will rage when he see’s this…


  150. on July 20, 2011 at 6:04 pm Fake Apple Stores selling Original Apple Products spotted in China

    [...] BirdAbroad walked into one of these stores in the Chinese town of Kunming and was shocked by her experiences in the stores which can be read on her blog.Related [...]


  151. on July 20, 2011 at 6:05 pm defendournation

    There are 15 Apple resellers in Kunming check this out http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/location.php?cid=88

    They are just authorised resellers with a misleading signage “Apple Store”. Not a fake one, come on…


    • on July 21, 2011 at 10:58 am BirdAbroad

      The stores I photographed are not located at any of the addresses on that list.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 11:55 am Lu ZhongWei Takeshi

        either the list is not updated or the store is fake. you should provide the address of the store to a (verified) apple employee and/or any member of the public who wants to do the policing.

        since this has gotten quite viral i suppose the regional marketing manager of Apple store in China should come out and verify stuff.

        anyway good post. lol


  152. on July 20, 2011 at 6:06 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | Best Smartphone Blogging

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  153. on July 20, 2011 at 6:06 pm Falske kinesiske Apple Store Looks Utroligt Rigtige [Apple] | PCTV

    [...] navne på dem. Og endelig, butikken selv, der ved nærmere eftersyn ser sjuskede. Galskab. [ Birdabroad via ifoapplestore [...]


  154. on July 20, 2011 at 6:06 pm No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China

    [...] On 20 luglio 2011, in Senza categoria, by Victor Agreda, Jr. It seems several completely unauthorized "Apple Stores" have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple's Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding Asian [...]


  155. on July 20, 2011 at 6:10 pm China faket zelfs Apple Stores | iCreate

    [...] erop en eraan en erin Deze foto’s komen van weblogger BirdAbroad die nietsvermoedend door het Chinese Kunming wandelde en plotseling tegen een Apple Store aanliep. [...]


  156. on July 20, 2011 at 6:10 pm Fake Apple Stores Spotted in China | AX3 | Global Asian Lifestyle + Pop Culture Webzine

    [...] Source 1,2 Related Posts [...]


  157. on July 20, 2011 at 6:13 pm epallen

    there should be app for ipr whoop-ass.

    and: a bird. a broad. a broad bird.


  158. on July 20, 2011 at 6:17 pm After Fake iPhone Here Comes The Fake Apple Store | iPhone 4G

    [...] fake Apple products like, iPhone or iPad, it’s just natural to find a fake Apple Store too. BirdAbroad blogger recently discovered a fake Apple Store in south-central city of Kunming, China, complete [...]


  159. on July 20, 2011 at 6:26 pm Fake Apple Store Pops Up in China - TechBlogger

    [...] [via Engadget - BirdAbroad] [...]


  160. on July 20, 2011 at 6:29 pm George

    Can i just say…..SO WHAT?
    get over it.. it’s all just a bunch of commodity items.


  161. on July 20, 2011 at 6:30 pm Boot up: Tech giants and patents, Facebook’s MySQL meltdown, and more | alfawisky.com

    [...] Are you listening, Steve Jobs? >> BirdAbroad [...]


  162. on July 20, 2011 at 6:33 pm Al

    Well, apple uses chinese workers like it’s the 19th century industry, so it’s only natural that they get hit back (extremely minimally) 19th century style.


  163. on July 20, 2011 at 6:40 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | My Shitty Blog

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  164. on July 20, 2011 at 6:42 pm [Website] Apple Stores in China?

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  165. on July 20, 2011 at 6:43 pm Only in China: Fake Apple Store « Apple « HKtech

    [...] Engadget, BirdAbroad Related Posts :iPad 2 clone hits stores in China This is what the next iPad could look like [...]


  166. on July 20, 2011 at 6:50 pm iPones klonen war gestern – heute den ganzen Store » Von Robin » iShare-News.de

    [...] einige gesehen die das iPhone geklont haben oder ein Zwitter von Apple und Android. Die Bilder von BirdAbroad zeigen hier aber direkt einen kompletten Klon des Apple Stores. Nicht nur das Design des Shops [...]


  167. on July 20, 2011 at 6:57 pm [出醜到外國系列] 老外發現昆明假 Apple Store | UNWIRE.HK 流動科技生活

    [...] http://birdabroad.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/are-you-listening-steve-jobs/ [...]


  168. on July 20, 2011 at 6:57 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | Tech Gadget Reviews

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  169. on July 20, 2011 at 6:57 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | Funkburg.at - Blog

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  170. on July 20, 2011 at 7:00 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | The Final Castle

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  171. on July 20, 2011 at 7:01 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | hiPinoy Portal

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  172. on July 20, 2011 at 7:07 pm abc

    Apple “Stoer”? WTF?!


  173. on July 20, 2011 at 7:10 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | TEST ZONE

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  174. on July 20, 2011 at 7:10 pm Boot up: Facebook’s MySQL meltdown, tech giants and patents, and more | Digital News

    [...] Are you listening, Steve Jobs? >> BirdAbroad [...]


  175. on July 20, 2011 at 7:12 pm Fake Chinese Apple Store - Social Slave

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  176. on July 20, 2011 at 7:15 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | wizteq.com

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  177. on July 20, 2011 at 7:15 pm These Knock-Off Apple Stores in China Will Shock You iphonetionary.com : iphonetionary.com

    [...] [BirdAbroad via ifoAppleStore] [...]


  178. on July 20, 2011 at 7:15 pm Irre! Komplett gefälschter Apple Store! » t3n News

    [...] dem Pseudonym Bird Abroad bloggt eine 27jährige Amerikanerin aus dem chinesischen Städtchen Kunming und berichtet von den [...]


  179. on July 20, 2011 at 7:15 pm louisn

    Being a Hongkonger, I have to say that this fake ‘stores’ are extremely common in Mainland China. Hong Kong has been a world-renowned city and famous fot tourism over the century. It was a British colony till 1997. If you don’t want get fake products or getting poisoned by those exist-in-name-only so-called ‘regulations’ on the safety of food, please come to Hong Kong.

    WE ALWAYS WELLCOME TOURISTS TO VISIT HONG KONG!


  180. on July 20, 2011 at 7:16 pm Blogg Demo » The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email [...]


  181. on July 20, 2011 at 7:16 pm fabulouslybroke

    What I’m interested in knowing is how this is allowed to go on

    I mean it’s one thing to riff off a theme or an idea, but to blatantly RIP IT OFF?

    They KNOW what they’re doing, so don’t tell me “That’s just the way it is” or “That’s just China”, or “It’s just money”, or “It’s not hurting anyone”.

    It’s not just Apple, it’s everything…

    This is exactly what I hated about visiting China. It’s all a big fat facade and it’s a bubble about to burst and cause another ripple in the world economy

    They work hard, but they are not organized. I could go on, but this’d become a blog entry.


  182. on July 20, 2011 at 7:16 pm To μαϊμού Apple Store της γειτονιάς σας, made in China | Digital Life

    [...] καταστημάτων Apple. Οι φωτογραφίες που διέρρευσαν στο BirdAbroad και αναδημοσίευσε το 9to5mac δείχνουν ένα κανονικότατο [...]


  183. on July 20, 2011 at 7:20 pm Chinaman

    They are selling genuine Apple products at competitive prices.

    Whether ‘fake’ store or not, they shift Apple units sourced from Apple Distributors. And Apple is MADE in China anyways.

    And unlike the ‘real’ Apple store, you can ACTUALLY haggle (ok, it helps to know the dialect).

    So chill….and enjoy Asia.


    • on July 20, 2011 at 10:35 pm Happy Tinfoil Cat

      Family and friends living in China buy things like “iPhone 4″ in China and somehow it works on the Chinese network, back when iPhones only functioned on USA AT&T. Those products are not ‘real’ Apple products and Apple never sees a dime from it.


  184. on July 20, 2011 at 7:21 pm Peter Drew

    If that store leaves out the glass floors, glass elevators, glass stairs of the Apple stores in the UK then that’s a benefit for those of us with Vertigo.


  185. on July 20, 2011 at 7:22 pm [apple]中国のApple Retail Store(偽)がすごい。 | SDBlog

    [...] BirdAbroadより。 storeごとまるっとコピーって、もう最強だね。さすが中国。 [...]


  186. on July 20, 2011 at 7:26 pm Mike

    I guess they can get away with it, as Apple customers are braindead idiots.


  187. on July 20, 2011 at 7:28 pm Dreist: Kompletter Apple Store kopiert! - sich, eine, dass, Apple, China, über, Kumming, Store - Apfelnews

    [...] das Ganze natürlich auch ein bisschen proffessioneller funktionieren kann, bewies eine Bloggerin, die sich derzeit in China aufhält. Sie entdeckte nämlich den brandneuen Apple-Store in Kumming! [...]


  188. on July 20, 2011 at 7:30 pm chen

    In China, HARDLY anyone buys Genuine products.

    WHY????

    because you buy the same product made in same factory for 1/5 or 20% of Apple price. Apple is too greedy, too expensive.

    Only ignorant westerners pay full price. Who care if it is legit, In China, it does not matter.

    Ask yourself why Microsoft sells genuine softare for $1, beacuse we are smarter and do not pay rip off prices.


  189. on July 20, 2011 at 7:34 pm 昆明开了三家苹果零售店 | YesKafei Daily

    [...] Are you listening, Steve Jobs? (via 9to5mac) [...]


  190. on July 20, 2011 at 7:34 pm Wood

    Can Apple actually do anything about it ? How does that work in China ?

    If you go to see a judge about IP rip-off, do they just laugh in your face ?


  191. on July 20, 2011 at 7:35 pm Fake Apple Store In China Looks Like The Real Apple Store - Media | Media

    [...] t-shirts worn by the employees who actually think they are working for Apple.Head on over to the Bird Abroad for lots more details on these fake Apple stores, apparently there are a total of three within a [...]


  192. on July 20, 2011 at 7:35 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | Red Je PC

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  193. on July 20, 2011 at 7:44 pm 昆明开了三家苹果零售店

    [...] Are you listening, Steve Jobs? (via 9to5mac) function postToWb(){ var _t = encodeURI(document.title+' nn两个老外在漫步昆明时,找到了三个苹果零售店。这三个Apple Store,与北京、上海的苹果店一样,敞亮的空间,简单、实际的产品体验台,统一着装、佩戴标牌的“苹果员工”,一切都相当的苹果。nn但这三家位于昆明的苹果零售店'); var _url = encodeURIComponent(document.location); var _appkey = encodeURI("9f2b310a70694f069492426eef4da279"); var _pic = encodeURI('http://www.yeskafei.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/kunming-pingguo-lingshoudian-05.jpg|http://www.yeskafei.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/kunming-pingguo-lingshoudian-04.jpg|http://www.yeskafei.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/kunming-pingguo-lingshoudian-03.jpg'); var _site = 'http://www.jsswf.com'; var _and = String.fromCharCode(0×26); var _u = 'http://v.t.qq.com/share/share.php?url='+_url+_and+'appkey='+_appkey+_and+'site='+_site+_and+'pic='+_pic+_and+'title='+_t; window.open( _u,'', 'width=700, height=680, top=0, left=0, toolbar=no, menubar=no, scrollbars=no, location=yes, resizable=no, status=no' ); } [...]


  194. on July 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm Fake Apple Store In China - The Wholesale Forums

    [...] has visited an actual fake apple store where even the employees think they are working for apple! http://birdabroad.wordpress.com/2011…ng-steve-jobs/ __________________ buy cheap – when they drop, it's time to shop wholesale games – find the [...]


  195. on July 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm daily essence: Quartalszahlen, Murphy’s Law, Store-Kopie | iNews.de

    [...] Land der unbegrenzten Möglichkeiten: in China werden sogar Apple Stores [...]


  196. on July 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm KIRF Mann

    Sadly, the employees probably think they are working in a real Apple store.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 1:29 am EieioSoftware

      Did you read the article?


  197. on July 20, 2011 at 7:56 pm tony

    And the last pic shows the “apple stoer” clearly real hey


  198. on July 20, 2011 at 7:59 pm Counterfeit Apple Stores begin to open in China -apple employee, apple stores, blue apple, china beijing, city, country apple, detail, Economy, scale, Store

    [...] Blogger Birdabroad took the photos in question and was initially stopped by staff when she started to snap shots of the store itself. However, once she explained she was an Apple employee visiting from the US (lying, of course), the staff became friendly and allowed her to take shots of the staff, products and store itself. [...]


  199. on July 20, 2011 at 8:00 pm China not only fakes iPhones… but Apple Stores, too! » Mac To The Future

    [...] Surprising almost no one, China is indeed home to the fake Apple Store. These pictures from BirdAbroad (viaIFOAppleStore), show a fake Apple Store complete with everything that a real Apple Store [...]


  200. on July 20, 2011 at 8:01 pm zulughana

    Amazing!!!


  201. on July 20, 2011 at 8:16 pm Apple-Overload! » No comment: Faux Apple Stores in China

    [...] seems several completely unauthorized “Apple Stores” have been spotted in Kunming, China by the author of the blog BirdAbroad. While Apple’s Q3 earnings call mentioned the exploding [...]


  202. on July 20, 2011 at 8:18 pm shnikov

    我是《云南信息报》(昆明的一份报纸)记者 不出意料 将报道此事


  203. on July 20, 2011 at 8:20 pm En Chine : après la contrefaçon d’iPhone, des Apple Store presque réels ! | Tout, tout, tout, vous saurez tout sur les nouveautés Apple!

    [...] Source [...]


  204. on July 20, 2011 at 8:20 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | iPhone Daily News Digest

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  205. on July 20, 2011 at 8:22 pm Are you listening, Steve Jobs? (via BirdAbroad) « Echarikinya's Blog

    [...] The Western news media is replete with pithy descriptions of the rapid changes taking place in China: China has the world's fastest growing economy. China is undergoing remarkable and rapid change. This represents a unique moment for a society changing as quickly as China. You probably read such things in the paper every day – but if you have never been to China, I'm not sure you know quite what this means on a mundane level. As I've mentioned el … Read More [...]


  206. on July 20, 2011 at 8:22 pm China – Fake Apple Store – einfach mal nachgebaut! - Apple, China, Denn, Nachbauten, Markt, Store, Hersteller, Geräte - ITler.NET - Der Blog für ITler und Sysadmins

    [...] [via] [...]


  207. on July 20, 2011 at 8:23 pm Attention, Steve Jobs: In China, Fake Apple Stores Where Staffers Think They Work For Apple | The Latest Breaking Daily News (World & Local)

    [...] what a Western blogger found in Kunming: a perfect replica of an Apple store, albeit with a few tiny incongruities – a bad paint job [...]


  208. on July 20, 2011 at 8:23 pm shnikov

    may i use your pic?like this~~~http://www.flickr.com/photos/7790026@N07/5908193464/in/set-72157627004193775


  209. on July 20, 2011 at 8:24 pm Apple Store | TRUELIGHT ANGEL

    [...] operate. In order to be a Premium Reseller you MUST make your store look essentially like an Apple Store. As an Apple employee, this is not ant Apple Premium Reseller. It doesn’t even look like a [...]


  210. on July 20, 2011 at 8:26 pm Gnstr

    Why hasn’t Apple done anything about this? Or have they??


  211. on July 20, 2011 at 8:27 pm shnikov

    i am a reporter from Yunnan Information Daily,i will report it.


  212. on July 20, 2011 at 8:30 pm Charles Anthony

    Amazing Apple Store rip off! Steve, are you reading this?


  213. on July 20, 2011 at 8:32 pm Fake Apple Store Spotted in China? - Techland - TIME.com

    [...] exactly what this intrepid blogger wondered, daring to snap photos of what looks an awful lot like Apple's "you're on the bridge of Starship [...]


  214. on July 20, 2011 at 8:32 pm China Faking iPhones? Easy! Fake Apple Stores? Not so easy… | Richard Waterworth

    [...] stores? Surprising almost no one, China is indeed home to the fake Apple Store. These pictures from BirdAbroad (viaIFOAppleStore), show a fake Apple Store complete with everything that a real Apple Store [...]


  215. on July 20, 2011 at 8:33 pm Random images from the internet - Page 111 - DesignersTalk

    [...] [...]


  216. on July 20, 2011 at 8:33 pm Mike Caron

    My wife has been to Kunming and said it’s lovely!


  217. on July 20, 2011 at 8:34 pm Reading between the lines of Apple’s Q3 results – JailBake

    [...] feel this change. China is such a big market it has even spawned a wave of fake Apple retail stores. Look.[ABOVE: A fake Apple retail store in China, image courtesy of the Birdabroad blog, which first [...]


  218. on July 20, 2011 at 8:36 pm K.

    Wether or not it is a reseller who is overacting a little bit:
    As long as the “stuff” on sale there is real Apple hardware (that hardware is “Made in China”, thanks for the jobs overthere) those customers won’t care for Steve Jobs’ attitudes towards his brand. And the employees won’t give the least of a shoot too about “fake or not” – as long as they are getting paid for their shifts. (I hope they are getting paid.)


  219. on July 20, 2011 at 8:38 pm Fake Apple Store? | FunkieMunkie

    [...] Store’ right? It should be the normal ‘Mac’ or ‘Machines’. Based on Birdabroad, Apple has recently opened and only owns a few store around Beijing and Shanghai. There’s no [...]


  220. on July 20, 2011 at 8:41 pm In China maken ze zelfs Apple Stores na | BREKEND.nl

    [...] Via | Lees verder: iPhoneclub, De Telegraaf [...]


  221. on July 20, 2011 at 8:42 pm Chine Also Fakes Apple Stores | Jailbreak 5.0 - 4.3.3 - Untethered iOS iPad 2 Jailbreak

    [...] 9to5mac, BirdAbroad) Tweet [...]


  222. on July 20, 2011 at 8:47 pm doofus

    Cheap labor, knockoff goods, fake stores to sell them in. No wonder their economy is growing so fast.


  223. on July 20, 2011 at 8:47 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | foodswithlowfat.com

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email [...]


  224. on July 20, 2011 at 8:48 pm Neta & Andreas

    Lovely article to read!! We all love China, don’t we!?


  225. on July 20, 2011 at 8:50 pm Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad « Blogme

    [...] this article: Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad Tags: apartment, area, our-apartment, several-times, some-cases, the-area, [...]


  226. on July 20, 2011 at 8:52 pm Paul

    What’s the big deal, do you work for Apple? I would think this would just make a funny kind of entry but it sounds more like being offended that this could have ever happened to Apple.


  227. on July 20, 2011 at 8:53 pm Chinese counterfeiting extends to full-blown fake Apple retail stores | U.S. World News

    [...] to a blog BirdAbroad (via ifoAppleStore), several counterfeit Apple stores have popped adult in Kunming, China. One such plcae featured a circuitous staircase and employees [...]


  228. on July 20, 2011 at 8:53 pm Best Bingo Sites

    Another one for Apple to add to the list of companies to sue.


  229. on July 20, 2011 at 9:01 pm Fake Apple Stores open in China

    [...] fake Apple retail locations comes via American ex-pat blogger “BirdAbroad,” who today posted pictures of a number of phony Apple Stores in the city of Kunming, China, which is cloistered away in the country’s southern region — [...]


  230. on July 20, 2011 at 9:01 pm Fake Apple Stores open in China

    [...] fake Apple retail locations comes via American ex-pat blogger “BirdAbroad,” who today posted pictures of a number of phony Apple Stores in the city of Kunming, China, which is cloistered away in the country’s southern region — [...]


  231. on July 20, 2011 at 9:02 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | APPLIPHILIA

    [...] [BirdAbroad via AppleInsider] [...]


  232. on July 20, 2011 at 9:03 pm Doghat Damo

    Apple are a bunch of arseholes! Bitter grapes? maybe so… I have been an apple user and technician for 7 years, I have loved and supported the brand since the first imacs and ipods… even the Apple newton!

    However after spending a year trying to get a job working as an Apple Genius and having 5 interviews I am eventually told I am not successful, I am welcome to reapply in 6 month. They also told me that they do not offer feedback… well that’s just great! How am I supposed to work on my weakness in order to succeed next time?!

    In addition their products seem to have lost that special touch… that only intelligent, creative or diverse types had and every tom dick and harry as an apple product which is pretty much outdated with a month of hitting the shelves.

    Apple has become the new shinier and more expensive Dell. I have traded my iphone for a galaxy S2 which provides all the flexibility and multitasking the iphone does not.

    When my imac dies I will not be replacing it with another overpriced (albiet sexy) apple product. They have become nothing more than a corporate organisation.

    Apple if you are reading this… loose the evil empire image you have created for yourselves and go back to the fun quirky grass roots great company that you once were so we can love you once more.


  233. on July 20, 2011 at 9:06 pm Me Blog − Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad

    [...] Read the rest here: Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad [...]


  234. on July 20, 2011 at 9:07 pm China Fakes Apple Store, not just iPhones and iPods | TechGoggles - Technology Simplified

    [...] products like iPhones and iPods, there are Fake Apple Stores as well in China. These pictures from BirdAbroad (viaIFOAppleStore), show a fake Apple Store complete with everything that a real Apple Store [...]


  235. on July 20, 2011 at 9:09 pm Gem

    The last picture cracked me up! Great article, I see China’s copy-cat-rip off spirit is still around.


  236. on July 20, 2011 at 9:13 pm julia

    why go all the way to china? you can get them online from china!

    http://iphone5auction.com


  237. on July 20, 2011 at 9:14 pm Fake Apple Store Spotted in China? – TIME | APDN

    [...] exactly what this intrepid blogger wondered, daring to snap photos of what looks an awful lot like Apple’s “you’re on the [...]


  238. on July 20, 2011 at 9:14 pm Eric Schatz

    Imagine my shock and horror discovering the General Tso’s chicken sold at my local Chinese food restaurant is in no way Chinese! Imagine!

    Let’s do a miller analogy (remember those?) China is to Food as USA is to:
    a) Clean air and water
    b) Public integrity
    c) Egalitarianism
    d) Branding


  239. on July 20, 2011 at 9:17 pm Apple Store Apple Stoer Cina Cinesi

    [...] [via birdabroad] Tweet > [...]


  240. on July 20, 2011 at 9:20 pm China faket zelfs Apple Stores | Apps Magazine

    [...] erop en eraan en erin Deze foto’s komen van weblogger BirdAbroad die nietsvermoedend door het Chinese Kunming wandelde en plotseling tegen een Apple Store aanliep. [...]


  241. on July 20, 2011 at 9:22 pm Pk

    Great post!


  242. on July 20, 2011 at 9:24 pm Attention, Steve Jobs: In China, Fake Apple Stores Where Staffers Think They Work For Apple

    [...] what a Western blogger found in Kunming: a perfect replica of an Apple store, albeit with a few tiny incongruities – a bad paint job [...]


  243. on July 20, 2011 at 9:24 pm Alessandro Paiva

    I loved the Apple “Stoer” sign :-) !!! You’ll find some iPhonies there, just like Lisa Simpson. My goodness!!!!!


  244. on July 20, 2011 at 9:24 pm Speedball*Zee

    =)) this is hilarious!!!!! I still cannot believe it’s fake :) )


  245. on July 20, 2011 at 9:25 pm gaycarboys

    Blimy, I wouldn’t want to have to tell them apart. That’s the thing about CHina, they just don’t care. You can steal whatever you like and there seems to be no recourse.


  246. on July 20, 2011 at 9:29 pm China Has Fake Apple Stores as Well as Fake Apple Devices! - Apple iPad Forum

    [...] [...]


  247. on July 20, 2011 at 9:29 pm Blogme » Blog Archive » Are you listening, Steve Jobs? « BirdAbroad

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  248. on July 20, 2011 at 9:32 pm Steve

    I don’t know, maybe civilization has just arrived to the point to where nothing is original anymore and imitation is now not only the ultra sincerest form of flattery but standard procedure?

    LOL great post by the way.


  249. on July 20, 2011 at 9:32 pm Reading between the lines of Apple’s Q3 results

    [...] While sales in Europe and America seem relatively flat, sales in Japan and the Asia Pacific are booming, up 16 percent and 57 percent respectively. This is just the tip of the iceberg. China is going to become an ever larger market for Apple and I would not be at all surprised to see the value of that market exceed that of the Americas within the next five years. Wake up, because the sleeping giant that is China is waking up, and the entire world will feel this change. China is such a big market it has even spawned a wave of fake Apple retail stores. Look. [...]


  250. on July 20, 2011 at 9:34 pm Apple Stør

    [...] China vs. Apple Conan O’Brien editors absolutely love it! [...]


  251. on July 20, 2011 at 9:35 pm Tori

    An for sure the quality of the computers here are better that in a real Apple store (at least you can change the battery) and of course cheaper :D .


  252. on July 20, 2011 at 9:37 pm X400

    Wow im from Kunming haven’t been there in years…. it looks so modern…


  253. on July 20, 2011 at 9:39 pm Fake Apple Stores?! Oh China.. « ThomasD Media inc.

    [...] Surprising almost no one, China is indeed home to the fake Apple Store. These pictures from BirdAbroad (viaIFOAppleStore), show a fake Apple Store complete with everything that a real Apple Store [...]


  254. on July 20, 2011 at 9:39 pm Fake Apple Stores (China) - Vancouver's Top Classifieds and Automotive Forum - REVscene.net

    [...] [...]


  255. on July 20, 2011 at 9:40 pm Now The Chinese Are Copying Apple Retail Stores, Too

    [...] “We struck up a conversation with these salespeople who, hand to God, all genuinely think they work for Apple,” the blogger writes. [...]


  256. on July 20, 2011 at 9:40 pm Dr Winston

    what a great article and something I honestly didn’t realise happened. I guess I’m very naive with things like that.


  257. on July 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm Fake Apple Store spotted in China - WORKFORCE HQ

    [...] This Apple Store looks so real we still can’t quite believe it isn’t. The KIRF-ers have excelled themselves this time: mimicking or at least reinventing everything from the Brave New World posters down to the dog-tags and “We live here” demeanor worn by the staff. There were a few giveaways, however, which led observant blogger BirdAbroad to whip out her camera and start gathering evidence: slight imperfections in the decor, a lack of individual names on staff badges, plus an unlikely location in the Chinese Backwaterville of Kunming. Hey Apple, we feel your pain. READ MORE> [...]


  258. on July 20, 2011 at 9:46 pm Chinese counterfeit phones are nothing new, counterfeit Apple Stores, now that’s something new! | Ipad & Iphone Tech | Ipad & Iphone Technology Blog | Ipad & Iphone Tech

    [...] [BirdAbroad around AppleInsider] [...]


  259. on July 20, 2011 at 9:46 pm kariBUP

    I usually find stores in Malaysia bearing the official reseller sign next to their main signboard. They make a lot of effort to look as “apple” as possible.


  260. on July 20, 2011 at 9:50 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | Scripting4You Blog

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email this | Comments Technology Facebookfacebook TwitterTwitter [...]


  261. on July 20, 2011 at 9:54 pm Grace Chao

    Wow… This is just hilarious. I am actually travelling to Kunming for work next Monday. Can you tell me where I can find the fake store so I can take pictures with my ipad2 for my geeky husband? Thanks!!!


    • on July 20, 2011 at 10:06 pm BirdAbroad

      Hi Grace – email me at birdabroadblog AT gmail DOT com. Thanks!


  262. on July 20, 2011 at 9:55 pm Andrew Rowley

    Lmao this is hilarious. It is by far the best set up shop I’ve ever seen, but then again I’m not in China :P lol.


  263. on July 20, 2011 at 9:55 pm nïkö

    i mean
    the real whole apple thing is a complete rip-off
    so its nice to see a rip-off-rip-off ;)

    folks, i wish i had your problems… …authorized stores… genuine stores… who cares about STORES??
    fuckin’s sake!

    oh and @mr. more brain, good point, the brain-point: cause such (brand-fascist-)electronic-fashion-gadgets ARE NO medicine! so, instead of talking bout brains, you might start thinking. thanx


  264. on July 20, 2011 at 9:57 pm n-tv

    Great post. Thanks!
    http://www.n-tv.de/technik/Chinesen-faelschen-Apple-Stores-article3852726.html


  265. on July 20, 2011 at 10:01 pm Falsa Apple Store chinesa beira o real | JORNAL DO EMPREENDEDOR | Empreendedorismo na veia

    [...] “staff”, mas sem seus nomes. E, claro, a loja em si, que é bem tosquinha. Surreal. [Birdabroad via [...]


  266. on July 20, 2011 at 10:02 pm Fake Apple Stores open in China

    [...] of the fake Apple retail locations comes via American ex-pat blogger “BirdAbroad,” who today posted pictures of a number of phony Apple Stores in the city of Kunming, China, which is cloistered away in the country’s southern region — or, [...]


  267. on July 20, 2011 at 10:03 pm China no sólo falsifica iPhones, también Apple Stores [EN] | Grace To You

    [...] tiendas falsas, apple stores » noticia original Esta entrada fue publicada en General. Guarda el enlace permanente. ← Costa sigue el [...]


  268. on July 20, 2011 at 10:03 pm China Not Only Makes Counterfeit Apple Products, But Entire Stores too! | Joel Housman

    [...] almost unbelievable account posted on a blog called [...]


  269. on July 20, 2011 at 10:03 pm Apple rocks China: Can it outrun counterfeiters? | ZDNet

    [...] this blog post is to be believed Apple’s counterfeiting woes may just be beginning. BirdAbroad has documented a stunning knockoff of an Apple Store. Yes, the whole [...]


  270. on July 20, 2011 at 10:07 pm Deepy Sabrwal

    Good post. I think it is good one.


  271. on July 20, 2011 at 10:09 pm Gina Carr

    This is quite an amazing story. I wonder what sorts of “controls” US companies (and other countries) will really be able to have in a country like China. As China continues to flex its economic muscle, will companies like APPLE be told that there are new rules? The world is getting flatter indeed. Very astute observations BTW. (Note: I saw this on Google+ with Darren Rowse.)


  272. on July 20, 2011 at 10:21 pm In China ganzer Apple-Store gefälscht! | Computer Blog

    [...] Plagiat-Weltmeister. Dabei sind wir es gewohnt gefälschte Artikel auf dem Markt zu finden. Was der Blogger „BirdAbroad“ jedoch in der chinesischen Stadt Kunming sah, schießt für so manchen wohl den [...]


  273. on July 20, 2011 at 10:23 pm Fake Apple Stores open in China (Digital Trends) | Rendy Blog

    [...] of the fake Apple retail locations comes via American ex-pat blogger “BirdAbroad,” who today posted pictures of a number of phony Apple Stores in the city of Kunming, China, which is cloistered away in the country’s southern region — or, [...]


  274. on July 20, 2011 at 10:24 pm derektigges

    This is on one hand great for Apple, on the other hand it’s not. First it means that there’s demand for their products in Kunming. But it also means that the Apple-brand is abused by someone else.

    Difficult situation but I can imagine that you don’t want your brand to be “stolen” by people.


  275. on July 20, 2011 at 10:24 pm Victoria

    Ok I have one major question are the products real Apple products and how do you know you ae buying a real product? I would scroll through the comments but 114 is a little hard to do on my phone.. Anyways, are the prices cheaper? Product quality the same? You should test it out.. I am so curious now..


  276. on July 20, 2011 at 10:26 pm En Chine : après la contrefaçon d’iPhone, des Apple Store presque réels ! | Blogchoc.com – toute l'actualité croustillante du web

    [...] Source [...]


  277. on July 20, 2011 at 10:27 pm 老外發現昆明假 Apple Store | share news

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  278. on July 20, 2011 at 10:28 pm Fake Apple Stores open in China (Digital Trends) | Weblinxx.ca

    [...] of the fake Apple retail locations comes via American ex-pat blogger “BirdAbroad,” who today posted pictures of a number of phony Apple Stores in the city of Kunming, China, which is cloistered away in the country’s southern region — or, [...]


  279. on July 20, 2011 at 10:28 pm tinkerbelle86

    thats hilarious! congratulations on fp


  280. on July 20, 2011 at 10:33 pm la cina si spinge oltre: falsificano anche gli Apple Store | ilbento.com

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  281. on July 20, 2011 at 10:33 pm metafacts

    Great post! In 1993, I remember being chased out of a “Gateway” computer store in the Akihabara in Tokyo. They wouldn’t let me take pictures. The top floor of the store had workers still creating displays – with the characteristic cow spots.
    As it turned out, the next week, I had a meeting with Gateway executives on another topic and mentioned visiting “their store”. Oh, you should have seen the shocked look on the face of the VP Marketing.
    Gateway ended up opening their own (first) Tokyo store the next year, just outside the Akihabara.


  282. on July 20, 2011 at 10:38 pm GeeDeeOy

    I have spent the last 2 years in Dalian, in north-east China. They have the same thing. I have seen at least 5 fake Apple stores there and more in other cities. It’s not that the government doesn’t know, it’s just that they don’t care.


  283. on July 20, 2011 at 10:42 pm Fake Apple Stores open in China (Digital Trends) | News Bulletins

    [...] of the fake Apple retail locations comes via American ex-pat blogger “BirdAbroad,” who today posted pictures of a number of phony Apple Stores in the city of Kunming, China, which is cloistered away in the country’s southern region — or, [...]


  284. on July 20, 2011 at 10:43 pm Fake Apple Stores open in China (Digital Trends) | CJDWNEWS

    [...] a feign Apple sell locations comes around American ex-pat blogger “BirdAbroad,” who currently posted cinema of a series of artificial Apple Stores in a city of Kunming, China, which is isolated divided in a country’s southern segment — or, as [...]


  285. on July 20, 2011 at 10:46 pm Now The Chinese Are Copying Apple Retail Stores, Too « Computer

    [...] “We struck up a conversation with these salespeople who, hand to God, all genuinely think they work for Apple,” the blogger writes. [...]


  286. on July 20, 2011 at 10:46 pm Made in China: Bukan Sekadar iPhone, Mereka Juga Tiru Apple Store — RotiKaya

    [...] blogger (Bird Abroad) yang menetap di China baru baru ini terserempak dengan ‘Apple Store baru’ ini di [...]


  287. on July 20, 2011 at 10:48 pm lisaroca

    Very interesting. Great article.


  288. on July 20, 2011 at 10:48 pm Attention, Steve Jobs: In China, Fake Apple Stores Where Staffers Think They Work For Apple » CNN Nwes - A Nation of News

    [...] what an American blogger found in Kunming: a perfect replica of an Apple store, albeit with a [...]


  289. on July 20, 2011 at 10:50 pm seb_p-dfX

    a copy of a copy of a copy. We’re all copying something or emulating someone. Your fashion style, to way you eat, the way you learned to talk. Who can pretend to be the originator of anything nowadays? We live in a big mash-up blob mass intercopulating. And everybody wasting time to try to prove who is right: “yes,there is resellers in China”, “no there isn’t”. Little ego games.


  290. on July 20, 2011 at 10:54 pm kclewett

    Awesome article, I loved it! I’ve been to China a few times (yes, I knew Kunming before reading this) and they certainly have a knack for copying. I’ve never met a Chinese person that thinks that copying is wrong, it’s an art in itself. And they have done it well!


  291. on July 20, 2011 at 10:55 pm Chinese Fake Apple Store « News Feed Link (NFL)

    [...] to the blog BirdAbroad (via ifoAppleStore), several counterfeit Apple stores have popped up in Kunming, China. One such location featured a winding staircase and employees in [...]


  292. on July 20, 2011 at 10:56 pm En China copian ¡¡¡ hasta las Apple Store !!! « iPhoneA2 [ iA2 ]

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  293. on July 20, 2011 at 10:57 pm Bored With Faking iPhones China Decides To Go Big: Fake Apple Stores | Penn Olson

    [...] oh-so China. This is a great story with lots of great photos, so do drop over to the blog and give it a read in it’s [...]


  294. on July 20, 2011 at 10:58 pm wjnieuwstad

    Great article and totally recognizable… even in Shanghai there are Apple store ripoffs in these extremely large IT warehouses (forgot the name of the famous street where they all were)


  295. on July 20, 2011 at 10:59 pm Completely Fake Apple Stores Found In China | JOB

    [...] BirdAbroad noticed that, for instance, none of the employee nametags had their names on it. They just said “staff.” And Apple never writes “Apple Store” on their signs, they just put up their logo. A 10-minute walk revealed two more such stores. [...]


  296. on July 20, 2011 at 11:00 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China - Latest Technology Trends

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  297. on July 20, 2011 at 11:03 pm Tony Warren

    Correct me if I’m wrong but you can’t copyright a store look. What makes a store look like an apple store? White walls, clean minimal design, nice open space, layout of the gadgets on the tables.

    If someone makes a shop that looks like an Apple store and they sell genuine apple products are they actually breaking the any law?


    • on July 21, 2011 at 1:36 am EieioSoftware

      They can’t call it an “Apple Store” or use apple logos w/o permission. Just like there is no law against opening a hamburger shop and using a giant yellow M as your logo, but using McDonalds logos and calling it McDonalds would be trademark infringement.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:04 am mmarulla

      >>Correct me if I’m wrong but you can’t copyright a store look.

      Yes you can. It’s falls under “trade dress” —

      “Trade dress is a legal term of art that generally refers to characteristics of the visual appearance of a product or its packaging (or even the design of a building) that signify the source of the product to consumers. Trade dress is a form of intellectual property.”


      • on July 21, 2011 at 3:12 am vs

        Are you sure the “Trade dress”-term is known all around the world?


  298. on July 20, 2011 at 11:03 pm Daily Reading: July 20, 2011 | Elliot Ross

    [...] Are you listening, Steve Jobs? we've heard of fake apple goods – this is an entire bootleg apple store found in deepest China Email Previous postDaily Reading: July 19, 2011 [...]


  299. on July 20, 2011 at 11:12 pm The ultimate KIRF: fake Apple Store spotted in China | New Tech Lover

    [...] Insider  |  BirdAbroad  | Email this | Comments Go to [...]


  300. on July 20, 2011 at 11:13 pm Ben

    This is hilarious! I would have been completely fooled into believing that this is a legitimate Apple Store. I am wondering what the legal implications would be since this “apple store” is using trademarked logos and such.


  301. on July 20, 2011 at 11:27 pm dthanja

    … awesome story! I can’t help imagining what if all the employees were… CYBORGS!!! Completely realistic except for say peeling fake skin behind the left ear??? I love that you were quick enough to say(or not say!) you were visiting Apple employees from the U.S. brilliant!


  302. on July 20, 2011 at 11:35 pm Mark

    I saw one of these shanzhai Apple stores in Xi’an on its East Street next to the Bell Tower. Looks exactly the same as the photos you took.


  303. on July 20, 2011 at 11:40 pm Alteran Ancient

    Behold China: Land of the knock-offs and cheap, unlicensed imitations.

    I can give you just a few examples…
    “Final Combat”, a Chinese knock-off of Team Fortress 2.
    These unlicensed “Apple Store” retail stores.
    Various iPhone handset imitations.
    Various Blackberry imitations.
    Various well-known contraceptive brands.

    The list goes on and on.


  304. on July 20, 2011 at 11:41 pm Javier

    I’m going to open a fake Apple store in Iran! thanks for such a great idea.


  305. on July 20, 2011 at 11:42 pm Fake Apple stores discovered in south-west China | Benjamin Cohen on Technology

    [...] BirdAbroad wrote about discovering the first of the stores: “I went inside and poked around. They looked [...]


  306. on July 20, 2011 at 11:55 pm joergruckel

    wonderful! thanks :-)


  307. on July 20, 2011 at 11:56 pm Fake Apple Stores in Kunming, China? » ComputerService.sg

    [...] Source: birdabroad.wordpress.com [...]


  308. on July 20, 2011 at 11:59 pm think counterfeit « eyes open

    [...] finds a set of counterfeit Apple Stores in Kunming, [...]


  309. on July 21, 2011 at 12:01 am Jc Aybar

    Can U copyright a building look, or as in this case a store look (my guess is, yes u can), if u walk around and see a store with the unique design that the apples stores are build around the globe + the apple logos plastered all over the store “you will assume immediately that the store is an Apple Store”. They way the Chinese are building their economy is crazy “they copycat everything” God Damn design your own stuff and show the world that u people can make some real gadgets from scratch “Stop stealing others people work”.


  310. on July 21, 2011 at 12:06 am Paul

    Don’t know if it was intentional, but the Fight Club reference is classic.


  311. on July 21, 2011 at 12:07 am w0lver1ne

    Perfect imitation. Almost like the real thing….”almost”.


  312. on July 21, 2011 at 12:11 am jmaister

    Maybe all the fake stores are soo nicely done that the real one has to take a step back to differentiate itself? no?

    THat coUlD haPP3n! :D


  313. on July 21, 2011 at 12:11 am sinn1

    I want to shop their, that is fantastic. Why does this not happen in Florida? That’s it who wants to go, halfsies on a Best Buys, we could sell Windoes and macks products,come on who’s with me? Just think of all of those Sansumgs and Sonie Tvs we could sell.


  314. on July 21, 2011 at 12:15 am Michael

    Well this isn’t anything new, because in my country Apple products are sold in stores similar to Apple Stores but the name is translated in local language, so there is no doubt that they are fake as well


  315. on July 21, 2011 at 12:15 am klotin

    Very impressive!


  316. on July 21, 2011 at 12:15 am Nick Name

    Relevant legal case:

    Two Pesos, Inc. v. Taco Cabana, Inc. (91-971), 505 U.S. 763 (1992)

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/91-971.ZS.html


  317. on July 21, 2011 at 12:16 am Made in China

    fruits of doing business in China.
    Only thing The US has edge over rest of the World in particular was the IP, thanks to our greedy-pig executive who only thinks of short period Share price and their own bonuses have sold that too to China.
    We’re going to pay for a long time and never recover unless our greedy-pigs do not take actions. I feel that our Business executives and politicians are nothing but bunch of pimps.


  318. on July 21, 2011 at 12:17 am Omacron8

    People…

    This is how the chinese goverment exists. It allows the manufacturers of Apple components, to get the licensing for such a product as the iPhone to manufacturer (Foxcon).

    Then, that comnpany makes the product for Apple, but siphons off the production run, to place in Chinese rip-off stores. So that Apple makes billions selling to the world, but a second secret plant pumping out iPhones for sale in China.. for the Chinese.

    My friend moved his manufacturering facility to china 11 years ago. 5 years afterwards, he gets a call and find another plant, (nearly identicle to the one he built) right down to having the same assembly (his plans)…

    Making his product. They essentially allowed him to set up shop, make & built his product to sell world wide, only to find out the Chinese don’t care about his patents and are blatantly making his product for sale in china.

    All these American business men that moved their manufacturing to china are finding out the hardway..!


  319. on July 21, 2011 at 12:27 am mrbricksworld

    I have heard if fake products but never fake stores. Great post…oh wait a minute, was that just a fake post as well?

    It looked like a real wordpress plog, but then why did it was WORDPRESS BLOG on it, they usually just say WordPress. Hmmmmm.

    Congrats on being Freshly Faked, I mean Freshly Pressed.

    Have a great day! Great post really! I loved it.

    Mr Bricks


  320. on July 21, 2011 at 12:31 am Andrew Capitulo

    There’s a new Chinese mall in New York with an “Apple-esque” store. I wouldn’t count them as a rip-off since they took a different name and only sell accessories, but I still thought it was very amusing since it’s obvious they’re going for the same look. http://tinypic.com/r/24wt0lv/7

    The other stores in that mall are equally hilarious. I thought they had a Ferrari store, until I noticed it’s a Ferrari “Hair Salon”, complete with the exact logo font: http://tinypic.com/r/2z84uti/7


  321. on July 21, 2011 at 12:32 am kamikz

    jesus christ, will it kill them to just try at least building something not more than 1/10th not their own. the “iPeds”, fake italian/french brands, high-speed chinkansen…. please….


  322. on July 21, 2011 at 12:37 am Manolo Wissmann

    Brilliant! We also worked and lived in China and this is very good food for that part of Chinese culture we are missing and left behind, but was the most fun of it all….Their untamable opportunism. Oh yeah..the last picture says Apple Stoer in the sign. We are from the Netherlands and in Dutch Stoer means brave or tough alike and tough and brave this nation is!
    Last; Please let them be, they make towns like Kunming and many like them bearable. Any Chinese citizen with the income to be able to buy “the real deal” will never buy in these kind of stores, that’s a question of maintaining their status and personal branding. Any average Chinese citizen will never be able to buy the real deal……That is what is giving expats jobs and benefits to envy, and the real deal US and European buyers and consumers the ever decreasing retail prices they demand to keep up with their failing economies.


  323. on July 21, 2011 at 12:42 am visvabalaji

    Unbelievable but very interesting to know about copy of copy cats ;)


  324. on July 21, 2011 at 12:45 am Eric

    Apple Stoer ftw!!!


  325. on July 21, 2011 at 12:51 am Fake Apple Store in China | Just a Sitting Duck

    [...] the name, “bird” “duck” it’s like we’re cousins  ) found a completely fake Apple store in China.  Read the whole story but a few of the highlights: this was a total Apple [...]


  326. on July 21, 2011 at 12:59 am A Fake Apple Store …where even the employees were fooled | Diary …for deals, details and distractions

    [...] A Fake Apple Store …where even the employees were fooled Totally unrelated but I came across this amazing story of a fake Apple store in China where even the employees were fooled: a total Apple store ripoff [...]


  327. on July 21, 2011 at 1:00 am Flavorwire » There’s an Entire Fake Apple Store in China

    [...] thanks to Jason Kottke for directing us to this fascinating post by a blogger living in Kunming, China — a small city which is home to what might just be the [...]


  328. on July 21, 2011 at 1:05 am Saxon's MovieView

    This post will probably make me leary of all Apple Stores from now on. I’m going to start poking around the one in our mall…Those guys look dodgy…


  329. on July 21, 2011 at 1:06 am Pamela's Blog

    At least they’re selling Apple products, unlike the fake Apple stores that Microsoft opened. :)


  330. on July 21, 2011 at 1:09 am fireandair

    You know, if this were a ripoff of Microsoft, most of the people here would be applauding the Poor, Downtrodden Chinese for sticking their thumb in the company’s eye and saying, “Take that, Bill Gates!”

    But for some reason, the far more avaricious, legendarily nasty, and self-interested Steve Jobs appears to be the pet capitalist of the limousine progressive set, so you are all Horribly Outraged On His Pseudo-Buddhist Behalf.

    Personally, I don’t think it’s possible for ANYONE to accumulate that much power or money without being morally bankrupt, including the Chinese government, so I’ve got no dog in this race. I’m not rooting for any of these chuckleheads. I just find it funny that if you brand rapacious, slave-driving shut-down-the-corporate-charity capitalism with the right logo, the supposedly “no-logo” progressive crowd will still manage to fall for it like a ton of bricks.


  331. on July 21, 2011 at 1:09 am Lafemmeroar

    If China can knock-off Louis Vuitton, Prada, and other name brands, then they’re taken the rip-off factor a step further with the “Apple Store.”


  332. on July 21, 2011 at 1:17 am ron

    Heck the Pope ditched the fake Bishop last november……..so why not a fake apple store.


  333. on July 21, 2011 at 1:19 am Tiger

    Where are these THREE shops? I mean the address.

    I see Apple has a few authorized retailers in Kunming. With out address, no one will confirm who you are talking about. Maybe it is just a legal one.

    Further, you say that is a place in Kunming. How do you prove that?? This is really a post lacking very very basic information. Can’t imaging so many people just choose to believe it.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 1:25 am BirdAbroad

      Happy to give more info. Email me at birdabroadblog AT gmail DOT com.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm Bobby

        You are most likely a faked blogger.
        With China becoming the largest market for Apple, they will open even more authorized stores in China.
        Please delete your posts and apologize to the Chinese, for bashing them for no reason. This is just an authorized store selling genuine Apple products.
        Apple does not even care how the store looks. Funny that you care.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:32 am DropADuece

      There have already been reports corroborating her blog post. An actual employee from the main (FAKE) Kunming Apple Store pictured in the pics on this blog has admitted the Store is a fake, NOT AN AUTHORIZED RESELLER.

      http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/07/21/china-fake-apple-store-clerk-speaks-out/

      Also, this article tracked down all three stores pictured and verified that NONE of them are Authorized Apple Resellers. Your addresses can be found here in this article:

      http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2011/07/19/counterfeit-apple-stores-popping-up-in-china/

      And @Bobby, you should apologize to BirdABroad for impugning her character. Everything she posted is true and real. The Chinese that steal others Intellectual Property deserve to be bashed.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 5:04 pm Bobby

        The writer of this article dared not confirm if this store is selling faked or genuine Apple products.

        Perhaps, a faked store selling genuine Apple products would make it less sensational.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 9:31 pm DropADuece

        No less sensational.

        You have no way of knowing what that store is selling since they are already being dishonest in trying to pass themselves off as being a legitimate Apple Store. Even if the products are genuine Apple products, they could be stolen, refurbished, factory rejects, or obtained in a way that circumvents the Apple Channel distribution so Apple sees no money on the items. You have now way of knowing, nor should you trust that this store isn’t getting the products from the grey market. Also, when someone buys a product from this fake store and tries to take it back for support when it fails, the store won’t be authorized to do any warranty work.

        This is deception plain and simple. It matters not if the products are genuine. It’s the fact that the store is trying to pass itself off as being under the Apple Inc. umbrella when it is not. If the store lies about this, how can you trust anything the store does? You cannot.


  334. on July 21, 2011 at 1:24 am Gareth

    I’m in Tangshan and there are two or three “authorised” resellers that I’ve seen. I think they’re all run by a company called Coodoo. There is also a store that opened recently that may or may not be “genuine” but which is trying very hard to look the part.

    http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/location.php?cid=58 – Tanghan stores.

    http://www.coodoo.com.cn/ (they run decent stores and are always very helpful)


  335. on July 21, 2011 at 1:25 am blahboozy

    china should be the president of the world


  336. on July 21, 2011 at 1:37 am shadowk1ssed

    Wow, the ripoff really IS quite beautiful. Got to hand it down to China for making a very realistic ripoff.. :D It’s a compliment by the way, if you were wondering.


  337. on July 21, 2011 at 1:39 am Jason

    you made Appleinsider.com

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/07/20/chinese_counterfeiting_extends_to_full_blown_fake_apple_retail_stores.html


    • on July 21, 2011 at 1:54 am thedt.us

      also made engadget


  338. on July 21, 2011 at 1:41 am sarammck

    Ah this is ridiculous!!!


  339. on July 21, 2011 at 1:45 am EieioSoftware

    Wow, BirdAbroad, your a tech-celebrity! Need to find a way to monazite your new fame! BTW, all fake chinese iphones and ipads are pretty obvious. If they connect to the app store and the user experience is right, they are real. It’s easier to copy the look than the actual user experience. They could still be syphoned off from the plant, or stolen…


  340. on July 21, 2011 at 1:46 am anon

    So what? apple made iphone, ipad, ipod from blood and bones of chinese workers. Can they do anything to steven job?


    • on July 21, 2011 at 4:19 am Scott

      I don’t think the Chinese workers were forced to work for Apple and I’m sure they made some cash..


  341. on July 21, 2011 at 1:50 am The Rise of the Fake Apple Store - NYTimes.com

    [...] it was clearly fake with the store design and employees where clearly out of character.According to a recent blog post written by an American women currently living in Kunming, China, who writes the blog BirdAbroad, [...]


  342. on July 21, 2011 at 1:50 am jamey

    Fake Apple Store is a great idea … as long as I can pay for my purchases with counterfeit money.


  343. on July 21, 2011 at 1:54 am Apple news of the weird: Knock-offs in China | TechRepublic

    [...] an ingenious exploit that goes a bit beyond these routine activities. In a post titled, “Are you listening, Steve Jobs?” she reports her wonderment at finding an Apple store in her rather out of the way city of [...]


  344. on July 21, 2011 at 1:54 am Dino Reyes

    China, home to fake Apple products — Now home to fake Apple stores! 3 of them!!! http://bit.ly/qioehT # in


  345. on July 21, 2011 at 1:59 am News – 7/20/2011Brooklyn Art Project | Brooklyn Art Project

    [...] ultimate knockoff? A fake Apple Store in [...]


  346. on July 21, 2011 at 2:02 am tomtwigg

    Fascinating and very nicely told … crazy, funny, a little disturbing. Maybe we can balance the trade deficit with an intellectual property damages claim :^)


  347. on July 21, 2011 at 2:03 am Gail Nicholson

    Great (funny) article and the comments are just as interesting! What nobody has said though, which is my opinion, is that Steve Jobs won’t give a hoot. The only people who could be disadvantaged by these stores are the official Apple resellers in China – or at least the ones local to the rip-offs (China is a BIG place). That seems to me to be an issue for Chinese merchant laws, not America’s. It isn’t going to stop the West buying genuine Apple products, and most Chinese don’t have the choice anyway. There is simply NOTHING that Apple can do about this, because it’s happening in China, where US law means squat; so I am sure they will shrug philosophically and take the attitude of most pirated media and entertainment companies. At least mimicry is supposed to be the sincerest form of flattery! :) What amuses me most is the awkward position of management, where on the one hand they want to discourage photos because they know their store is fake – but on the other, all their staff think it’s legit, so they are friendly to ‘real’ Apple employees coming to look around. That’s priceless irony!


  348. on July 21, 2011 at 2:09 am itsjustlight

    Love the “Apple Stoer” sign in the last picture.


  349. on July 21, 2011 at 2:10 am applediehard

    Yep.. this article reinforces the notion that China immiates but cannot innovate! Not sure Steve Jobs needs to hear any message conveyed by thepost though.


  350. on July 21, 2011 at 2:11 am bonkasaurus

    Scandalous! i had no idea you could open apple rip off stores with the same name and logo, how cunning, i would have fell for it.

    -Bianca at http://theinbetweengirls.wordpress.com/


  351. on July 21, 2011 at 2:14 am Locksley McPherson Jnr

    Wow! That’s madness. There must be some law being broken here.. I’m sure it won’t take long for them to be shut down or forced to rebrand. Makes me wonder how many others there are and if it happens in other countries too.. Can’t be an easy task keeping track of imitators.


  352. on July 21, 2011 at 2:21 am asyuli4211

    I think you are correct in saying that that store is a fake. I looked up the locations in china on the apple website and there are NONE in Kunming. Here is the site: http://www.apple.com/retail/storelist/.

    http://asyuli.wordpress.com/
    Ave


  353. on July 21, 2011 at 2:22 am budgetordietrying

    This is AMAZING!!! The fixtures and merchandising is almost identical, are the staff as knowledgeable? Crazy stuff, this is by far the best post I have ever read. I kind of want to go there!


  354. on July 21, 2011 at 2:29 am Eva McCane

    holy sh*t. they did a great job faking it. i had no idea…i’ve done the canal street in new york, but this takes fakes to a whole new level. is it even legal? thanks for sharing. i’ll be careful if i ever make my way to china.
    http://www.icouldntmakethisshitup.wordpress.com


  355. on July 21, 2011 at 2:30 am BaliThai

    Fake Apple Stores are in Chengdu as well – very convincing, until you look closely!


  356. on July 21, 2011 at 2:33 am Jacob Goldstein

    Great post. I grabbed a couple of these pics and reposted them here: http://n.pr/mTXGI8 . I credited you and included a link to your post. Please let me know if that’s ok. Thanks very much.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:59 am BirdAbroad

      No problem. Thanks!


  357. on July 21, 2011 at 2:38 am aaron bowersock

    I LOVED the line, “China warps your mind into believing that anything is possible.” I lived in Jiangmen, (near Guangzhou) for a year and everything WAS possible. It’s amazing what some crafty people are able to do!


  358. on July 21, 2011 at 2:43 am Ben

    Go to Apple.com find their resellers, then type ‘kunming’ and you will find the store in the blog. However, all the text are in Chinese, that’s why the author didn’t know it. There are 2 premium resellers and 5 resellers in Kunming alone. http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/location.php?cid=88&keyword=昆明


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:54 am BirdAbroad

      Actually, I can read Chinese. The main store I photographed is not in this list at all.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 3:04 am Ben

        What is the address of the one you photographed ? Are you sure it’s not one of the five resellers who hasn’t got pictures on the apple site ?

        I would love to check with apple too if you got the address. Thanks.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 3:15 am BirdAbroad

        If the addresses on the link you gave are the actual addresses of the authorized resellers, then yes – I’m sure this isn’t one of them. Email me at birdabroadblog AT gmail DOT com.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 3:37 am Ben

        The addresses on the link are from apple’s site so I guess they are definitely genuine resellers’ address.

        Are all those pictures taken from the same store ? I noticed some said Apple ‘Store’ and the last one says Apple ‘Stoer’ :)

        Please publish the address of the fake shop you blogged about here, even if you type in Chinese Characters, at least someone would be able to track them down.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 4:53 am pablofitberg

        An important question: You say: “RP and I went inside and poked around. They looked like Apple products. It looked like an Apple store.”
        This means they sell fakes? or they sell original Apple products? I’curious…

        I think it’s a real auth. reseller than override all the rulles with a bulldozer. Resellers has to use white furniture, only Apple can use “haya” furniture…

        Regards!
        Pablo


    • on July 21, 2011 at 9:38 am Peter

      你搜索的城市 “昆明” 找到 13 家经销商。 This means there are 13 resellers in Kuming. 2 Premium Resellers and 11 Resellers. You probably saw 5 because the system is designed to show 5 at a time and you have to click on view next 5 results to view the next 5.

      Birdabroad, can you kindly reveal where the shop is? If is a bona fide reseller, then we shop clear their name of baseless accusations. If they are fake, then we should assist Apple in taking them down.

      There’s a part I found surprising. If the staff and security guards let down their guard after you mentioned that you were Apple employees and the shop is a fake, then either they have been deceived by their boss or they must be really stupid. In China where everything is possible (as so many of you mentioned), a staff or security guard should have pulled out his revolver and shot all of you and erased the photos. Then again, I’ve only read about this sort of shooting and killing happening in America and not China, so I might be wrong about that. .
      happen.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 10:49 am BirdAbroad

        I will not be posting the addresses of the stores on this blog. Feel free to email me at birdabroadblog AT gmail DOT com.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:43 am DropADuece

      These stores are NOT Official resellers.

      There have already been reports corroborating her blog post. An actual employee from the main (FAKE) Kunming Apple Store pictured in the pics on this blog has admitted the Store is a fake, NOT AN AUTHORIZED RESELLER.

      http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/07/21/china-fake-apple-store-clerk-speaks-out/

      Also, this article tracked down all three stores pictured and verified that NONE of them are Authorized Apple Resellers. You can find the addresses of the fake stores here in this article:

      http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2011/07/19/counterfeit-apple-stores-popping-up-in-china/


  359. on July 21, 2011 at 2:47 am Kelly Le Roche

    Same thing happens with Quicksilver in Bali!


  360. on July 21, 2011 at 3:02 am The Ultimate Knock-Off: A Fake Apple Store - China Real Time Report - WSJ

    [...] blogger in Kunming posted photos on Wednesday of a local store which, from a distance, looked just like one of the consumer [...]


  361. on July 21, 2011 at 3:10 am ChinaDecoded

    Wow, great story and photos. I am shocked and amazed that they pull this off. Do you know how long the stores have been running? Feel sorry for the employees that really think they are working for Apple.


  362. on July 21, 2011 at 3:28 am Jess

    It’s like the TV show Alias! In a (fake) Apple Stoer!


  363. on July 21, 2011 at 3:32 am NewsBot QuickTake: Fake Chinese Apple Store « Giant Robot

    [...] We turn now from the story of fake designer furniture in China,to the story of an expatriate blogger who has apparently found an entire counterfeit Apple store in the Yunnan Province city of Kunming. In fact, she thinks she found three, all within walking distance of the others. According to her report, which you can read at the link, the first clue that the first store she encountered was fake were the words “Apple Store” printed in proximity to the famous Apple logo on the front of the store and on various signs within it. Another clue was the employees’ name tags, which only identified the store’s gurus as ‘staff’ and not by name. In the blogger’s estimation, the store is definitely fake but “a beautiful one—the best ripoff store we had ever seen.” After you see the photos she took of the place, it’s pretty likely you’ll be inclined to agree. The striking thing, of course, is the apparent size and audacity of the construct. It certainly belies the stereotypical vision of shady vendors on the streets of Hong Kong orShanghaiselling fake goods or real goods of questionable origins out of rundown storefronts. (BirdAbroad blog – Amazing Fake Apple Store) [...]


  364. on July 21, 2011 at 3:35 am Kai Dornbusch

    omg…


  365. on July 21, 2011 at 3:47 am chuvstvo

    love it!


  366. on July 21, 2011 at 3:48 am Wellington Almeida

    For that reason I think China can never be involved into the spacial race, or right after they land in the moon, give them 3 days and a 2nd faked moon will suddenly apear in the night sky. lol

    Love Chinese people but they have lack of creativity when it is to make something new.

    See you Shanghai in September.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 8:36 am pilg0re

      I’m Chinese… so you’re saying I lack creativity?


      • on July 22, 2011 at 1:39 am Wellington Almeida

        Not that you lack creativity but yes most of the Chinese people as you quite know it. Not being kind of hilariously hypocrite about the subject. You know very well if you go hit some stores in Miame – US, Ciudad del Este – Paraguay, Panama and loads of other countries you will always find faked stuffs from China. Not too bad, sometimes I buy them but I really appreciate the originality when creating.

        To complete my point, I definitely know quite a lot of Chinese people that are creative, open minded and with fantastic outlook. Do get you self into the bad group if you are creative and willing for inovation.
        :)


    • on July 21, 2011 at 10:25 am Carl Chiang

      Talking sh** about china = Not cool.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 10:45 am Lawrence

      Dude, creativity cost money. Replicating creates money. As a Businessman which path would you take given limited resources?


      • on July 22, 2011 at 2:23 am Wellington Almeida

        I utterly agree with you if it is about financial elements that we are putting on the table. But you ought to know that to be creative can generate loads for a single person. Business much more the collective wealth where but for sure that is generating much more money.

        So that is not what I’d said, but being creative still a very good way to make a nice money. If you can be creative and a good business manager so I am sure you are going to reach the sky!


  367. on July 21, 2011 at 3:52 am jesse

    So, are the products that they are selling in these stores genuine Apple products?


    • on July 21, 2011 at 8:09 am First Maid

      They could be stolen products or simple counterfeit Apples.


  368. on July 21, 2011 at 3:54 am Earl Wilcox

    Whether you are willing to use the word “brand” or not, when you put “it” out in the modern insta-culture, you risk losing control of it.


  369. on July 21, 2011 at 4:18 am cheratomo

    This is awesome. Thanks to the publicity of this, Apple will be on their cases. You know they will. Apple is like Disney in that if you work for them and accidentally post the wrong thing they will immediately contact you and tell you to take it down with 24 hours or you’re fired.

    In other words, Apple will be like “Beech, please!” and kick these guys across town. They’ve got people just to do that job.


  370. on July 21, 2011 at 4:23 am a chinese person

    they’ve had apple stores like that in asia for the past 5 or 6 years already.


  371. on July 21, 2011 at 4:24 am a chinese person

    apple wont do anything because THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF IT. They’ve been well aware of it. Stores like that only pop up where there aren’t real authorized dealers.


  372. on July 21, 2011 at 4:30 am Test Name

    Awesome, but who uses mac?


  373. on July 21, 2011 at 4:43 am pablofitberg

    Fascinating! Mainly because we that we are on the dealer bussiness we know how hard is Apple with their conditions.
    Last ones include that the furniture couldn’t more made locally. We have to buy (around 200.000$) from Apple itself.
    But I have an important question: You say: “RP and I went inside and poked around. They looked like Apple products. It looked like an Apple store.”
    This means they sell fakes? or they sell original Apple products? I’curious…
    Regards!
    Pablo


  374. on July 21, 2011 at 4:44 am Darbyothrill

    Man, the Chinese have a real talent for intellectual property theft. It’s not a dig, just really the truth.


  375. on July 21, 2011 at 4:49 am Sara

    I live in Dalian…there are tons of these “Apple” stores. Of course, 2 of them are right across the street from the giant electronics market, which itself houses multiple Apple (and other company) counters.


  376. on July 21, 2011 at 4:49 am Rudolf

    So the store owner decorated his store based on the design of an Apple store to sell Apple products, what’s the problem here? Apple couldn’t have patented its Apple Store interior decoration, could it?

    And BTW, do you even understand the difference between ripoff and knockoff?


  377. on July 21, 2011 at 5:03 am mutant_dog

    Dear lady, when you catch your breath, would you care to share your experience of suddenly becoming a focus of internet celebrity ? It’s never happened to me, and I’m curious. TIA.


  378. on July 21, 2011 at 5:26 am aproprose

    What I don’t understand is how you decided this was a “fake” store? Was it deduced from the lack of details alone? Their name tags and the logo and the fact that it wasn’t listed? This whole thing sounds like a massive assumption.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:49 am DropADuece

      No assumption. It’s been corroborated by an actual employee of the store in her blog post. An actual employee from the main (FAKE) Kunming Apple Store pictured in the pics on this blog has admitted the Store is a fake, NOT AN AUTHORIZED RESELLER.

      http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/07/21/china-fake-apple-store-clerk-speaks-out/


  379. on July 21, 2011 at 5:37 am asj

    They are following the “copy exactly” principle


  380. on July 21, 2011 at 7:08 am Matthew Nehrling

    Even Chinese food is counterfeit in China now.


  381. on July 21, 2011 at 7:18 am Dean

    Saw this on Nightly News with Brian Williams. Really interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.


  382. on July 21, 2011 at 7:21 am JuandiPhone

    Really excellent work. I dont know how many comments do you usually have in your posts, but this will make your record, ¿no?


  383. on July 21, 2011 at 7:23 am s

    if you think kunming is a stretch, you can imagine my surprise at stumbling upon an apple store in guiyang (the capital of one of the poorest provinces). steve, if you’re on the prowl, its in the mall where the ice skating rink once existed–which was our original plan when we discovered it mid-demolishing.

    hilarious post, you made me miss home!


  384. on July 21, 2011 at 7:31 am brad hogarth

    china pays tribute to apple in it’s own way, more cut, copy and steal another fine example of imitation before innovation


  385. on July 21, 2011 at 7:33 am Michael F.

    I noticed that someone said China should cut the west off. Personally I have no problem with that. We dont need the heavy metals in our kids toys,dogs food,formula etc. in addition to the fact that China has been known for decades to pirate anything thats popular and trying to get lawsuits out of it for such things…well I know for a fact thats almost impossible. If the West stopped outsourcing jobs to China,wheat and rice to China etc. until they put a stop to such things,it would change. But the west wont. Its a pity. And as one person said about it being that the wests workers are unproductive.,..no its that you can get someone do do the job that would cost 15$/hr in the US for like 15$ per day. That much I know for a fact as I was with a company at one point that did outsource some of its tech support specifically for that reason,until the quality control was so bad they had to take most of it back.


  386. on July 21, 2011 at 7:38 am Robert Nicholson

    This is the same as you’ll see in Thailand with Copperwired. They have Apple Centers and Apple Stores in Bangkok too. It’s just something that license over there. This one in the picture is remarkable as they are ripping off the look entirely. At least in Thailand Copperwired will be wearing their own logo shirts even if their store is completely inspired by Apple Stores.


  387. on July 21, 2011 at 7:38 am man

    I’m loving reading the comments. The huge range of informed-ness.

    People who are surprised to hear this exists. (Yeah, all over the world. This one is exceptional only for being well-executed.)

    People who don’t understand why this shouldn’t exist.

    People who think Apple can do something about it.

    People who understand why Apple can’t.

    People who think there’s no harm done.

    The guy who thinks the store must have been real and the writer didn’t know the difference.

    The guy who thinks if stuff is “real” then it’s just the same as buying it from Apple. (Here’s your AppleCare paperwork. What’s your serial number?)

    The ones wondering why Apple should care. (Here’s a hint: They didn’t actually BUY the stuff from Apple.)


  388. on July 21, 2011 at 7:40 am Nathan

    oh damn


  389. on July 21, 2011 at 7:44 am Ruth K. Lym

    I forwarded this to a friend of mine who works at Apple in Cupertino, California, and she forwarded it to the group that handles their China group.


  390. on July 21, 2011 at 7:52 am Lance

    To all of you who think Apple (or Disney) can enforce IPR in China, you are dreaming. This isn’t your world (or Apple’s world) over here. IPR is 99.99% ignored and is violated as often as rice is cooked for lunch.

    Kunming is well-known to yuppie tourists because of the rock climbing and the close proximity to Vietnam. Also, IPR has never been a popular concept in China, so this is not surprising at all. I see dozens of shops with poorly crafted white bite logos selling Apple products on every street corner in Shanghai, have seen them for the whole six years I’ve been here. Using signs with the actual words “Apple Stoer” [sic] is something I haven’t seen before. I sent email to Steve Jobs five years ago about Apple sports shoes in China using the bite logo, but it seems they don’t care, since they have little chance of successfully defending their rights in China. Curious to know if those “Apple Stoers” are selling any Mac software discs, especially if they have Snow Leopard or Lion DVDs for typical street prices. Only the real Apple store in Shanghai has Mac OS DVDs out on display, but without the give-away pricing you see on all street vendor pirated discs. The wannabee shops will offer to burn you a copy (with an outrageous price compared with typical pirate software), but are not putting it out on display — especially not for the same price as Windows 7 on the street (5-8 RMB or US$0.75-$1.25).


  391. on July 21, 2011 at 7:54 am Just Saying

    This is clearly an Apple distributor, with distributor rights. I get what you tried to do but I think you should be a little bit more professional and check the facts before trying to “break” some headline news about an issue that doesn’t exist. There are many cases like this one around the world where regional distributors open stores following certain Apple aesthetic and service guidelines.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 10:43 am BirdAbroad

      The stores I photographed are not on the list of official resellers in Kunming that Apple itself published.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 12:13 pm Bobby

        No big deal. Just another failed China-bashing attempt.


      • on July 21, 2011 at 7:02 pm Cliff

        Trying to side-step the issue? Just Saying brought up the valid point of checking the facts, actually researching the company and requesting an official response from Apple Corp. Simply putting as “fact” from what you saw/experienced/photograph does not make it true. All we read are your assertions and references to the Apple website. Entertaining piece, especially for those China/India bashers (they’ll eagerly lap it all up – “serve them right cos they stole my job!”, “duh, 10 of them not even close to matching 1 of us geniuses”), but if you want it to be legit, this kind of “research” just doesn’t cut it.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:57 am DropADuece

      I’ll keep posting this over and over until you people quit bashing the author of this blog. She’s telling the truth.

      These stores are NOT Official resellers.

      There have already been reports corroborating her blog post. An actual employee from the main (FAKE) Kunming Apple Store pictured in the pics on this blog has admitted the Store is a fake, NOT AN AUTHORIZED RESELLER.

      http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/07/21/china-fake-apple-store-clerk-speaks-out/

      Also, this article tracked down all three stores pictured and verified that NONE of them are Authorized Apple Resellers. You can find the addresses of the fake stores here in this article:

      http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2011/07/19/counterfeit-apple-stores-popping-up-in-china/


  392. on July 21, 2011 at 8:00 am June

    ok


  393. on July 21, 2011 at 8:05 am quique lomeli

    There’s a Hard Rock Cafe in Cancun, México, and for several years thousands of tourist bought real fake t-shirts, it was a copy of a HRC, so well done that the people in London decided to sell them a franchise, and now is a legit store, I’ve always wondered if they supplied with legit memorabilia or if they keep the fake ones hanging on the walls.

    Some years later a wise guy went to Cuba and saw a bussiness opportunity in “La Bodeguita de Enmedio” the iconic bar where Hemminway drank his mojitos; the guy came back to México and realized that the name wasn’t registered by the cuban gov. so he launches his own 100% legal franchise company selling the name “La Bodeguita de Enmedio” in a counry that happens to love all cuban related things.


  394. on July 21, 2011 at 8:06 am Cletus Jones

    What’s Apple going to do about this? They’ll probably try to use their corporate might to shut these stores down and seek compensation, thus leaving the proprietors of these fake stores to crawl away with their tails between their legs. Intellectual rights will be enforced and all will be well.

    Here’s the reality : Apple’s going to use their corporate might to shut these stores down and seek compensation. The proprietors of these fake stores probably have powerful connections and lobbies the Chinese Government. The Chinese government clamps down on the factories manufacturing Apple products in China. Apple crawls away with their tail between their legs because it’s not worth jeopardizing the “good” arrangement they have with Chinese manufacturing by chasing after “small fry”.

    It sucks, but that’s what I think will probably happen.


  395. on July 21, 2011 at 8:07 am First Maid

    Many years ago, I spend some time traveling (1987) and working (1989-90) in China… I even went to Kunming. While in Kunming I got sick drinking bottled soda that was sold on the street… while I was laid up with the worst case of dysentery I ever had, I read a Travel book that said many people bottled their own soda at home and sometimes they would just use tap water, which could easily cause dysentery… (and in my case it did). So I physically understand the damage counterfeiting can do.

    I am not surprised at what China allows. I believe the Chinese government will do whatever it takes to become THE World Super-power. I know many people out there will just think this counterfeit Apple Store is the result of an unscrupulous Chinese businessman… and it might (but I believe that the Chinese government will allow this theft if it will benefit China).


  396. on July 21, 2011 at 8:08 am Cletus Jones

    PS. I wouldn’t be surprised if the products being sold are genuine apple products because they probably came from the same factory!


  397. on July 21, 2011 at 8:24 am V

    Unless all the products in this store are fake or stolen, Apple Channel (the division responsible for all the Authorized Preferred Reseller branches, as well as store-in-store displays) surely knows about this store, even if it’s not on the list of authorized stores on the website. Though perhaps they didn’t follow up after the store opened – the employees definitely shouldn’t have the T-shirts and badges…


  398. on July 21, 2011 at 8:32 am Simon

    It’s China…there are intellectual property rights?


  399. on July 21, 2011 at 8:35 am Brad

    Lived in China for 5 years and you are right. Expect anything. It is very possible a building or business that was there last week is gone and a completely new building standing in its place. My wife is Chinese and after 3 years living in the U.S. she finaly has decided that drinking cold water is nicer then drinking hot water. Good luck and great post


  400. on July 21, 2011 at 8:37 am nik

    Hilarious!! Of course it’s the ultimate compliment… Apple popular in China or what?


  401. on July 21, 2011 at 8:37 am sophiaharcourt

    Holy Geez!
    That’s craziness. If I do recall correctly though I once heard that in China imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and that there is really no such thing as copyrights over there. I however believe no one at Apple would be flattered;). Part of me can’t imagine they don’t know though. Maybe they are just letting these stores do their advertising and if they do well then Apple will shut them down and set up shop. I can tell the guy in the blue “Apple” shirt was not pleased being photographed. Clever that you told them that you may (or may not…:) ) be American Apple employees. Don’t know that I would have been that quick on my feet. Congrats on being FP!


  402. on July 21, 2011 at 8:43 am John Egger

    OK. These are legit Apple resellers. Apple isn’t going to open stores all over China. They’d rather just let local people do it.

    You can find a list of stores at http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/index.php
    There it says: Apple 授权经销商是独立机构,并不由 Apple 运营。
    “These stores are independent retailers who have acquired the right to resell Apple products, and are not associated with Apple.”

    Now, maybe the agreement was for these stores to display “reseller” prominently. But it doesn’t really matter. There may also be actual fake stores selling fake products, or shoddy genuine products that didn’t pass QA testing. But you can’t tell them apart.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 1:36 pm Steve

      If you look at that list, you will notice that they call themselves something like “Apple reseller,” there’s a logo for that that stores usually use.

      However, none of them are called “Apple Store” (that’s the only name Apple itself uses for its own Chinese retail stores), “Apple Stoer”, “苹果零售店” or “苹果商店”.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 6:01 am DropADuece

      Not legit, an employee from the store in this blog admitted it.

      http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/07/21/china-fake-apple-store-clerk-speaks-out/


  403. on July 21, 2011 at 8:45 am jamii

    China = Plagurise


  404. on July 21, 2011 at 8:53 am megmraz

    Whoa. How’d they get all of that stuff? The advertising, the set-up, the products, etc.? Crazy. When I was in China, I didn’t find a fake Apple store, but I did find two funny things:
    - A camera store selling fake Canon products (they had cleverly tilted the “o” in Canon a different way so that only a truly discerning eye could tell).
    - A lady had tiles in her bathroom, each with its own little painting of a piece of fruit. All the fruit looked sort of realistic… except for the apple… which was just the Apple logo facing backwards. Shameless.


  405. on July 21, 2011 at 9:00 am Ahmad LX5 Photographer

    Apple Stoer? LOL


  406. on July 21, 2011 at 9:17 am Swag Valance

    Sounds like the iStores I saw all over South Africa.


  407. on July 21, 2011 at 9:28 am Stephen Frost

    The Chinese press have picked this up: http://www.techweb.com.cn/tele/2011-07-21/1069207.shtml


  408. on July 21, 2011 at 9:35 am Waqas Rasheed

    This proves China can do everything. You may never know if they send their Neil Armstrong to the moon and prove that he’s American :)


  409. on July 21, 2011 at 9:50 am Hao Hao Report

    Someone thinks this story is fantastic…

    This story was submitted to Hao Hao Report – a collection of China’s best stories and blog posts. If you like this story, be sure to go vote for it….


  410. on July 21, 2011 at 9:50 am John

    Apple wants free promotion through those pirate stores, otherwise they would have been shut down by now


  411. on July 21, 2011 at 9:53 am Justin Nicholas

    This how it works. The factories that make the real products for Apple, Ping (golf clubs) etc just crank up their factories at night or whenever and produce larger quantities than the ship to the legitimate companies warehouse. e.g. Three for you one for me, Three for you, one for… Then they sell them to countries who allow parallel importing (like NZ) or in the Chinese markets or to brokers. You can buy a set of REAL golf clubs for $100 in China (And they are the real thing!)…


  412. on July 21, 2011 at 10:18 am MichaelEdits

    When I lived in Hangzhou, I figured that if I bicycled from end to end and then started over again, everything would have been rebuilt. My return after a year away was like moving to a new city. Oh, and I saw a vehicle that proudly claimed to be a Volov. Um, pirating Volvos? Why not?


  413. on July 21, 2011 at 10:21 am unidentify74@gmail.com

    I want me some Ipad2 from the Apple China store. I wonder what it will cost me online if I was to order? at the most maybe $150 bucks. YAY! Just got myself an Ipad2 china made hehehehe.


  414. on July 21, 2011 at 10:30 am henrik drescher

    i actually dont see the problem with stores besides apple seling apple products, its done all over the world. hong kong has many ‘apple’ stores ( there is not an official store there).
    when people buy the computers they can register and buy apple care. at this point it becomes clear whether or not its a ‘genuine’ apple product.
    i too live in yunnan. and i’ve brought my mac to the beijing apple store for repairs and was appalled at the service. they actually recommended that i visit an apple repair center that was not owned by apple , i did and these people were great, super professional and quick.

    americans are obsessed with brand names. they love their hiltons,starbucks and wallmarts ( theres is now a wallmart near our little rural village!)…but the chinese are actually capable of doing a much better job . they are super smart and motivated. and it wont be long before we will see ‘fake’ chinese brand shops in denver and los angeles.

    henrik drescher ( dali,yunnan)


  415. on July 21, 2011 at 10:36 am Lawrence

    I dunno aye…Is there like a trademark on the “official apple store”. Is there something that says “Your store cannot look like a proper apple store if you are a reseller”.

    Atm this post fails to deliver anything of value. Maybe if you can confirm that the products are fake/counterfeit then i give ur post a thumbs up.


  416. on July 21, 2011 at 10:44 am TechGreenFinance

    Saw the pictures and your story during the NBC piece earlier tonight—Excellent job, by the way! Best Regards.


  417. on July 21, 2011 at 11:15 am Travis Pollet

    I recently went to Cancun, Mexico, and went to a store very similar to this. They were selling iPhones, Macbooks, iPods, etc. It said Apple Store in the front and seemed to sell Apple name brand electronics. The store was located in a well versed shopping mall in the heart of Cancun along with other name brand company stores, I.E; Puma, Nike, Chili’s, Cinemark Theatres, Hooters, McDonalds, Lacoste, etc. The only thing is on Apple’s website, they didn’t even list Mexico as one of the countries they had stores in.


  418. on July 21, 2011 at 11:20 am rationpacks

    Why would anyone need to get from authorized retailer ?

    I worked as one of the staff at a very well known authorized reseller in Singapore. Seriously, u can get a better deal elsewhere.

    For Apple, authorized reseller rips Apple off by selling those third party products. Furthermore, if Apple is so lazy as not to open a native store, then serves them right.

    Btw, fake stores appear in Singapore too !


  419. on July 21, 2011 at 11:22 am China Rez

    are you living in a cave, these stores have been all over China for a while, and 99% of them are selling real Apple products and are authorized Apple resellers. You must be really ignorant to be living in China and just now see these store.

    Such a shame that this is being picked up around the world and put on the news.


  420. on July 21, 2011 at 11:24 am brettelizabethmurphy

    Your hits must be through the roof!!!! Congrats on Freshly Pressed and nationwide news articles :P


  421. on July 21, 2011 at 11:28 am liber202

    For anything coming out of China, we need to think 10 times before making a purchase. If they can fake the Apple store, they can fake anything. I don’t understand how can they be proud of themselves?

    The world’s fastest growing economy can one day become the world’s fastest collapsing economy if this kind of attitude continues.


  422. on July 21, 2011 at 11:30 am catchafallingstar

    I’m sure you know this by now, but Yahoo! wrote an article about your article. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/blogger-discovers-trio-perfectly-rendered-knockoff-apple-stores-195925037.html


  423. on July 21, 2011 at 11:33 am Donald

    Oops. Major typo. I meant to say North Korea (not South Korea), of course. :)


  424. on July 21, 2011 at 11:39 am Lawrence

    The approximate location of the Apple shop in this post can be found by googleling “E-Land kunming”


  425. on July 21, 2011 at 11:40 am Auspicious Wedding Dates

    I don’t think he’s listening…yet :)


  426. on July 21, 2011 at 11:42 am Gavin Wakerell

    made for a very interesting read, good stuff


  427. on July 21, 2011 at 11:50 am Lance

    Todd:
    Who owns the server at “images.apple.com”? Not Apple, as far as I know. Even if it does turn out to be a genuine Apple server, I notice it only lists resellers in the Americas, so that’s why no China or India. The real server in the U.S. is http://www.apple.com. In China, it is http://www.apple.com.cn
    Look here to find a reseller in the U.S.:
    http://www.apple.com/buy/
    Look here to find a reseller in China:
    http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/aar/list.php


  428. on July 21, 2011 at 11:50 am dianewrites

    Wow, this is an eye opener. I learn and discover a lot from your post and even to the interaction in the comments. Thank you for opening this topic.


  429. on July 21, 2011 at 11:51 am shakeralessa

    Great review, and thanks for the update. So how would I know that the product i bought is genuine?


  430. on July 21, 2011 at 12:07 pm cwray

    Well first things first, congrats on making national news. Secondly, before I even clicked on the link at Yahoo news I knew this had to be in China! I spent some time in Hebei province and came across a fake Starbucks and after a quick search found out that this is quite the norm in China. I had a feeling it was fake to begin with (Hidden in the back of a Dell store, Starbucks signs hung up with rope, etc.) but after a search at the company’s website, my suspicions were confirmed.


  431. on July 21, 2011 at 12:20 pm cookwithkelsey

    Amazing!


  432. on July 21, 2011 at 12:25 pm Jenn

    China is not keen on piracy and originality. Here in our country, there are lots of “China phones”, which look like phones by Apple but you’ll easily know they aren’t legit since they’re too cheap.


  433. on July 21, 2011 at 12:26 pm Jenn

    “Our Country” is Philippines, not China. Just making it clear.


  434. on July 21, 2011 at 12:37 pm Grant

    you didnt happen to see any rip off Microsoft Stores’s then, hehehehehe


  435. on July 21, 2011 at 12:42 pm A.S.W

    In fact, they are retail stores but resellers. Here,

    http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/index.php

    input city name in it and you’ll find there are many resellers in each city.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 12:44 pm A.S.W

      they are NOT retail stores…fixed


    • on July 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm BirdAbroad

      The stores I took photographs of are not in this list of resellers.


  436. on July 21, 2011 at 12:52 pm Grace Chan

    But… If production occurs in China, the product from these bootleg (albeit well disguised) Apple stores may very well sell the real thing. I mean, they often sell “genuine” products in stores(ie. phones, electronics, accessories, clothing) that were manufactured in China, they just simply were not passed through the company themselves, or distributed through a licenced distributor, essentially stolen property.
    So, although these poor souls are being laughed at for artificially working for Apple, they might be selling the real thing..?
    Of course, I’m Chinese, what would I know? :)


  437. on July 21, 2011 at 12:56 pm Brent

    Dear All. I am in Hangzhou Now. Good news for hearing the HANGZHOU at here. bad news for the fake APPLe store.. THe lucky point is the products at there are genuine…. Though heaps fake products here. hahahha


  438. on July 21, 2011 at 1:14 pm ttlook

    Fake Apple Store??


  439. on July 21, 2011 at 1:19 pm James

    Chinese products are cheap, but can be either fake or toxic. Don’t be penny wise and dollar foolish!


  440. on July 21, 2011 at 1:29 pm Reinier Pahladsingh

    Nice article, fun to read ;) keep ‘m coming


  441. on July 21, 2011 at 1:30 pm Ger

    you get what you pay for, what ever faked iphone, or apple store.


  442. on July 21, 2011 at 1:37 pm Dan

    Just an FYI…Kumming is not a small city. It has about 6 million people. It also has some of the best weather in all of China. They call it the Eternal Spring because it doesn’t get too cold or too hot.


  443. on July 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm D.

    Why the arrogance? Whose pockets are people filling who work for ‘genuine’ Apple stores? Seriously, why all the bitterness? Someone had a good idea and is riding the wave. Let them.


  444. on July 21, 2011 at 1:50 pm whoopiecookie

    I just saw this on twitter via the la times! Great job! Kudos on the investigative reporting!


  445. on July 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm netprofessionalreynolds

    Wow, your article really did great! I was surfing the net and most people were busy talking about your latest visit to China and how you discovered the Apple Store there! Great find, if you ask me.


  446. on July 21, 2011 at 1:57 pm Natasha Spark

    this is unbelivable! :O did you notice in the last picture they spelled “store” “stoer” that could have been a clue it was fake too haha so what are the products? just imitations?


  447. on July 21, 2011 at 2:01 pm light487

    I’m surprised at how surprised so many people here are…. is it really that surprising..? Honestly? I guess when you never look outside your own country with its high morals and “perfection” as you see it, you forget that there is the rest of the world out their with its “own” high morals and perfection.

    Ignorance, such blissful ignorance.

    Good on you China.. and I’m sure if Apple puts some weight on China, all that will happen is some token gesture to shut down a handful of these stores; plaster the news reports of the closures all over the place and then it’s back to business as usual and hopefully those pesky western corporations will go away and leave China to itself.


  448. on July 21, 2011 at 2:03 pm .....

    To those who have an apple product which you think you have purchased it in US or I can say that you have a genuine one. Do you mind to check where it was made?


    • on July 26, 2011 at 10:43 pm UltraNEO★

      On genuine Apple products we’re never told where it’s ‘made’ only the place they we’re ‘assembled’ and in recent years they’ve all been “assembled in china” (shanghai to be exact). If you are worried, you should visit the Apple site and check the serial number for warranty coverage.


  449. on July 21, 2011 at 2:08 pm Ryan

    This has been photoshopped. The picture that says “Apple Stoer”, if you look in the reflection you can clearly see a mirrored image of the word “Store”.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 2:19 pm BirdAbroad

      It was written twice across the outside of that store, once below (“Store”) and once above (“Stoer”). The last two photos on the post are of the same place.

      The great thing about China is that it doesn’t need photoshopping – it’s hilarious just as it is. :)


      • on July 21, 2011 at 6:55 pm Cheetarah

        This made it into the news in The Netherlands http://www.nu.nl/tech/2570608/zelfs-personeel-trapt-in-nepwinkel-apple.html
        And I really had to laugh about the ‘Apple Stoer’ as in Dutch ‘stoer’ means ‘tough’ – So tough luck to find an authentic Apple product in that store ;)


      • on July 22, 2011 at 5:13 pm Bobby

        The writer of this article dared not confirm if this store is selling faked or genuine Apple products.

        Why it is so hard to confirm if this store is selling real Apple products?

        Perhaps, a faked store selling genuine Apple products would make this blog less sensational.

        The author is trying to give people the impression that this faked store is selling faked products, when it is selling genuine products.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 9:39 pm DropADuece

        No less sensational.

        You have no way of knowing what that store is selling since they are already being dishonest in trying to pass themselves off as being a legitimate Apple Store. Even if the products are genuine Apple products, they could be stolen, refurbished, factory rejects, or obtained in a way that circumvents the Apple Channel distribution so Apple sees no money on the items. You have now way of knowing, nor should you trust that this store isn’t getting the products from the grey market. Also, when someone buys a product from this fake store and tries to take it back for support when it fails, the store won’t be authorized to do any warranty work.

        This is deception plain and simple. It matters not if the products are genuine. It’s the fact that the store is trying to pass itself off as being under the Apple Inc. umbrella when it is not. If the store lies about this, how can you trust anything the store does? You cannot.

        And Bobby unless you have personally inspected every product that store has sold, you cannot make the statement that the store is in fact, selling genuine Apple products. Quit being a homer and just admit that what is going on here is wrong.


  450. on July 21, 2011 at 2:11 pm Segunda Mano

    Steve Jobs debería denunciar esta clase de cosas en lugar de estar perdiendo el tiempo con sus litigios hacia HTC por las patentes.

    Una cosa es que compres algo a sabiendas de que es falso. Otra cosa es vender algo a sabiendas de que probablemente el comprador sea inconsciente de la falsificación que está adquiriendo.

    Seguro que más de algun pobre desgraciado sale de la tienda muy contento pensando que se ha llevado un “auténtico” iPhone 4.


  451. on July 21, 2011 at 2:28 pm Jeremy

    I lived in Hohhot (Huhehaote) in 2009-2010. I didn’t go in, but I’m pretty sure I saw at least one Apple Store (which was obviously fake, I now realize).


  452. on July 21, 2011 at 2:41 pm Yew Idiots

    no one will read the comments


  453. on July 21, 2011 at 2:43 pm Dotman

    What’s wrong? Means they r not selling original Apple products or not authorised Apple reseller? If not authorised, not wrong to sell as long products are not fakes, if they are selling fakes, they won’t allow the author to take pics after she (may or may not) identify herself as a fake Apple employee.


  454. on July 21, 2011 at 2:56 pm jongreer

    Before we get too carried away here, which of apple’s rights are being egregiously violated? the right to design cool hip stores? do they have a patent for that? (yes their retail logo is being stolen, what a shock. it’s done every day in NYC too to LV, DKNY etc) and unless the merch is in fact 100% fake or 100% stolen, then they somehow bought real apple products from apple (at some point in the supply chain).

    so i guess the real apple right that is being violated is the right to have fanboys/girls all over the world who only buy merch directly from the mothership and dr. s. jobs. think different indeed.


  455. on July 21, 2011 at 3:07 pm Gill Bates

    When I was in China in 2009 I bought an iPhone from an electronics mall in Dalian. I made one call out to make sure it worked, and it passed the test. And that was about all it did. When I got it home and tried to use it, the UI was next to unresponsive and in the end I put it on the street and let cars run over it.

    When I bought it, I wasn’t sure if it was an Apple product or not, but I thought it would at least work, but no, it was a total POS. I paid about $200 for it, and together with the $120 I had pick-pocketed from me, I lost $320 to overt thieves and more to the crooks and cheats who don’t live up to their commitments.

    Intellectual property rights are a joke, on the campus of Peking University, allegedly their No. 1 university, you can take a text book to the local print shop and have a copy by afternoon, no questions asked. Of course, someone will plagiarize something from the forged text book for their assignment or for their PhD.

    I’ve been there three times and once was enough. It’s a place with no principles whatever, other than to make money by any means.


  456. on July 21, 2011 at 3:12 pm AwesomeAim

    Totally amazing. I live in Shanghai; I’m no stranger to ripoffs of any kind. You just gotta admit, the Chinese excel at this kind of stuff.


  457. on July 21, 2011 at 3:13 pm guest

    It seems our Western laws – copyright, patents, trademarks – are increasingly limited to our Western world only. And imposing our will upon others is no longer an option.


  458. on July 21, 2011 at 3:25 pm Jos

    NIce, but who cares? Why is Apple creating such a news to everybody? Its a manufacturer of hard- and software, that’s it.


  459. on July 21, 2011 at 3:41 pm Owen Schikhof

    Unbelievable but also so expected..they copy everything!


  460. on July 21, 2011 at 3:41 pm David

    My wife and I are living abroad in China as well (we’ve just passed the one year mark) and everything you say is totally true! lol

    I laugh a lot at what I see in U.S. headlines about China. They really need to get people who live here to write for them.


  461. on July 21, 2011 at 3:46 pm Evert Albers

    Great post, but is this your actual blog or a copy?


  462. on July 21, 2011 at 3:51 pm Anti Apple

    It’s Apple own fault. They are to expensive.


  463. on July 21, 2011 at 4:00 pm Stephen Frost

    You’ve made it into mainland news in a big way. I just did a quick search in Baidu news, but the URL is too long to paste and it seems I can’t insert a link here. Nevertheless, if you search for “昆明苹果商店” (Kunming Apple Store) about half a dozen of the articles that come up on the first page are based on your blog (most of them from online tech sites). My favourite is this one (http://pcedu.pconline.com.cn/ios/1107/2475968.html), which shows the official store in Sanlitun. I liked this one as well (http://tech.china.com/news/company/892/20110721/16660435.html); the title actually used the English “Apple Stoer” in the Chinese title. Someone clearly has a sense of humour…

    It’s interesting that all the stories in Chinese (that I looked at) agree wholeheartedly that the stores you photographed are fake. One of them even related it to the Da Vinci sofa scandal (in which a retailer of expensive foreign sofas has been accused of producing some of their products in local factories).


  464. on July 21, 2011 at 4:06 pm mrmildmanneredunlessprovoked

    awww, they perfected the art of imitation. great post btw!


  465. on July 21, 2011 at 4:26 pm BBC News Website: Andrew Webb

    Hello, this is Andrew Webb from the BBC News website again. Could we run your photos with a credit. Also, have you shot video. My email is techknow@bbc.co.uk


  466. on July 21, 2011 at 4:28 pm Bill Smith

    Lol beautiful!

    Going there next week!!!

    I am all packed, just waiting to install my hair feathers from http://www.FeatherAccents.com


  467. on July 21, 2011 at 4:28 pm Red Font

    Apple Stoer. LOL.


  468. on July 21, 2011 at 4:34 pm tinamen

    good blog! and you are in the news — http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=708494&publicationSubCategoryId=200


  469. on July 21, 2011 at 4:42 pm MikeMike

    wow … BirdAbroad you must be plaesed … Channel4 and BBC taking your story … nice one!


  470. on July 21, 2011 at 4:44 pm Samvirtual

    Thank you for posting this. I did a post with link back. You are famous by now!
    greetz,
    Sam
    http://www.iphone-tips-tricks.com/2011/07/iphone-tips-fake-apple-stores.html


  471. on July 21, 2011 at 4:46 pm Joel Scanlon

    Ironically the iPhone 4 from this store doesn’t come with all those dropped call problems….hey also looks a lot like the apple store over here in Wagga Wagga, Australia! :)


  472. on July 21, 2011 at 5:07 pm TL

    Lol, I love that last picture… “Apple Stoer”… gotta love China!


    • on July 21, 2011 at 9:09 pm Laura

      Me too. I saw that picture on failblog.org!!! Funny


  473. on July 21, 2011 at 5:13 pm KJ

    Maybe it’s time ot move production back to the Weest, where there’s at least a pretense of law and order?

    Otherwise, this is the price Apple pays for slave wages and worker exploitation.


  474. on July 21, 2011 at 5:18 pm lala

    No surprise.. apple products are made in china…my iclone most likely came from the same factory.


  475. on July 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm johnmperry

    A friend of mine bought a can of fake Heinz Baked Beans in Guangzhou


  476. on July 21, 2011 at 5:25 pm Sean

    Hah, props to the writer for the find and the store for the detailed copying…

    More amazing, though, are the once again die hard apple fans crying crimes against humanity. From their perceived Western moral high horse, poking fun at the seemingly ignorant Chinese. It’s simply a different world there and their values and standards are different from our western standards.

    Btw, your and my real iPhones and other Apple products ARE made in China. They are just designed in California, get a clue.


  477. on July 21, 2011 at 5:30 pm betterlivingthroughscience

    This is amazing – and hilarious! Good work!


  478. on July 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm JuandiPhone

    Ding Dong, BBC


  479. on July 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm Kelvin

    Seriously, have you heard something called Apple Authorized Retailer?


    • on July 21, 2011 at 6:45 pm BirdAbroad

      The stores I photographed are not on Apple’s list of authorized retailers in Kunming.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 7:54 pm Triumphzhao

      try to read apple china


    • on July 22, 2011 at 6:36 am DropADuece

      See my other posts, a worker from the store pictured in this blog admitted that the store was not an official reseller. It is a fake.


  480. on July 21, 2011 at 6:20 pm Miguel

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7330986/Apple-admits-using-child-labour.html – that’s what really matters!!!!


  481. on July 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm Wajdi BouKhaled

    Folks,

    Check this out: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Technology/International/2011/Jul-13/Chinese-man-makes-iPad-look-a-like-from-scratch.ashx#axzz1SZLKLQf1

    Now what do you think about Chinese creativity?

    Cheers!


  482. on July 21, 2011 at 6:56 pm MarySue

    Did anyone check if these stores are certified Apple Resellers? Don’t you think it’s possible that they might just be resellers that went all out in the design?


  483. on July 21, 2011 at 6:58 pm Tigara Electronica

    This was amazing to see, great article, right on the spot ! It’s amazing how they (Chineese) can copy everything, they are very eficient, though in the long run it’s not really that helpful! I wonder how come they don’t try more to create/invent their own brands .. and seriously increase the quality of products – this would be a much greater long term strategy – but i guess nowadays everything it’s about speed and quick profit ..


  484. on July 21, 2011 at 7:15 pm spencerrae

    This is fascinating :) Great read. Thanks for the post! Enjoyed that.


  485. on July 21, 2011 at 7:34 pm daveinboca

    Back in the day, Taiwan also ignored copyright infringement laws as well. Is there something in the Chinese gene pool that has an outlaw propensity?


  486. on July 21, 2011 at 7:36 pm Rahul

    I wonder, if so called fake stores write that “Be careful from other duplicate apple producers and sellers, we are the sole authorized ISO 9001-2009 certified proprietor and distributor of apple products”.


  487. on July 21, 2011 at 7:39 pm Regan

    Nice scoop BirdAbroad! Ha ha. We all know stuff like this goes on, but this is pretty funny.

    Like alot of the posters tho, i wonder if the products are legit or knock offs? If they are legit, how do these stores make a profit? If they are knock offs….well…THAT is a more serious issue.

    Keep us posted Bird!


  488. on July 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm Sebastian Broekhoven

    You have a nice bag of De Gruyter! :-)


  489. on July 21, 2011 at 8:02 pm Wan Lee Man

    I’m a Chinese currently studying in USA. You guys are actually so ignorant to think Chinese need to feel like they are in Apple Store to buy an Apple? They did it for the ambiance. If an item is hot in China, they don’t care where they buy it, they’ll find a way.

    If Apple pulls out of China, their total revenue will drop by at least a significant margin. Apple should thank these “FAKE” stores for helping them sell their product. It’s not like Apple paid to build these stores, these people built it to sell Apple’s products. If you ask me, it is a very smart business move on Kunming outlet’s owner.

    From the picture, you do see that the FAKE Apple Store does have quite a few customers, and I believe they do sell pretty well. Apple has this fella to thank. My 2 cents!


  490. on July 21, 2011 at 8:07 pm NEWSiversum

    Hi, this is a really really crazy thing. Even here in Germany is now everywhere spoken of your discovery!


  491. on July 21, 2011 at 8:09 pm sweetchicks.net

    I am looking forward to diggin more of your quality content.


  492. on July 21, 2011 at 8:13 pm Запознанства

    And do you have some pics or facts about chinese stores in US and make comparison


  493. on July 21, 2011 at 8:19 pm leadinglight

    Wow, that’s really interesting. OK, I’m never taking my Mac for repairs if something happens to it in China. I wouldn’t be able to tell if the place was a rip-off store!


  494. on July 21, 2011 at 8:23 pm Lan

    Are they actually selling genuine apple products?


  495. on July 21, 2011 at 8:29 pm Magnus

    Well you guys are famous now! Congrats on the find!


  496. on July 21, 2011 at 8:40 pm Timo

    It’s unbelieveable.
    What will Apple do?
    Are there any reactions in the “Apple stoer” in Kunming already? (when will it be shut down?)


  497. on July 21, 2011 at 8:42 pm Promotionale Personalizate

    We are also impressed by the e-pad – an interesting i-Pad clone, with Android and i-Pad like User Interface. Very scalable, it looks and works like an i-PAD. The truth is that the Chinese version of the i-PAD is very legal and is selling well across America through e-Bay and Europe. Long live China!!!!


  498. on July 21, 2011 at 8:49 pm Vince Bonner

    China is no joke. I guess this is what you called “going the extra mile” to be counterfeit.


  499. on July 21, 2011 at 8:54 pm Jason Sydow

    Very good post, thank you.


  500. on July 21, 2011 at 9:01 pm Daruuraha Cali

    COOL


  501. on July 21, 2011 at 9:06 pm Ariana@Pearl's twirl

    Hey i read your post yesterday, but today I open AOL and part of it is on Huffington-AOL, here is the link, congrats:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/20/china-fake-apple-stores_n_904409.html


  502. on July 21, 2011 at 9:06 pm duola

    天朝人民太他妈有才了。


  503. on July 21, 2011 at 9:09 pm Elchin Alioglu

    The story is very well written. Great read.


  504. on July 21, 2011 at 9:10 pm Mick Hitchman

    You sure these aren’t legitimate Apple resellers?


  505. on July 21, 2011 at 9:22 pm sunder

    OH MY GOD..This is soo soo awesome..Chinese can do anything
    http://www.Farzinews.com
    salutes them for their farziness ..They can make a replica of anything. I wait for the day when Fake Chinese apple stores would be better than actual ones and ppl will prefer going to the fake ones


    • on July 28, 2011 at 2:20 am monik

      lol lololol


  506. on July 21, 2011 at 9:33 pm regerli

    What is the big deal? What special about the “real” Apple Store. Wooden tables were used there so no one else is allow to use the same! Racism is innated in those Supreme Americans.


  507. on July 21, 2011 at 9:34 pm Joe Hinkley

    When you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Apple should just write all this off as the price of moving their operation to the Pirate Paradise that is China.


  508. on July 21, 2011 at 9:34 pm regerli

    What is the big deal? What special about the “real” Apple Store. Wooden tables were used there so no one else is allow to use the same! Racism innate in those Supreme American beings.


  509. on July 21, 2011 at 9:35 pm Bastian

    Ha, copying is not that typical chinese as you might have thought.
    German press BILD (aka. bild.de) copied your story and your pics. Send ‘em to Hell, Malone!

    http://www.bild.de/digital/computer/apple-store/chinesen-faelschen-apple-store-18974828.bild.html


  510. on July 21, 2011 at 9:39 pm Sailor

    China always does this impressive work!


  511. on July 21, 2011 at 9:40 pm Ameya

    Amazing :-D … Chinese people … just amazing!


  512. on July 21, 2011 at 9:45 pm Saskia

    It`s a free market!


  513. on July 21, 2011 at 9:51 pm shinnalim

    After freaking out for a couple of seconds, and reminded of the same chemicals they used to make plastics and glue which they added to milk and exported. Ok What’s New?!?!


  514. on July 21, 2011 at 9:53 pm Rick S. Pulito

    Incredible. The degree of piracy in China almost (key word: “almost”) defies belief!


  515. on July 21, 2011 at 9:57 pm Peter Jalkotzy

    And this society is positioning to be the new global economic power – by lying, cheating and stealing – how is this ok? Why is everyone clamouring to be a part of this, and enable this? Fascinating. Instructive. Informative. Its lots of things, but it certainly is not right. And it is not limited to Apple – this behaviour and ‘way of thinking’ is pervasive through material ‘schtuph’ to entire towns. And looking at their appalling environmental management practices, this is a morally bankrupt society – demonstrating little to no social responsibility in almost any measure.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 10:57 pm Sean

      You’re in no position to set what is right or any other moral standard for a whole other society that is much older than your own and that you also benefit from. The only things keeping many in the West from OPENLY lying, cheating and stealing are the laws enforced to keep the rich and poor where they are. It’s a different society in China, ironically the closest thing to a free market at the merchant level, and I say kudos to them for playing the system well.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 2:47 am Jeff

      As opposed to slavery and colonisation (Americans and Europeans would not be where they are today without them), and now tariffs, protectionism and unfair trade laws that benefit Team America at the expense of the rest of the world? The hypocrisy is incredible.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 7:18 am DropADuece

        Most of those tariffs and trade laws went out the window when the United States ratified NAFTA and GATT and entered the World Trade Organization. Then came the sucking sound as all the US manufacturing jobs went overseas now that US companies could circumvent US Labor and Environmental laws by contracting cheap low wage foreign labor from countries that have no such laws. If the US still had such tariffs, the trade deficit between the US and China wouldn’t be at a record $270 Billion. That’s right, Team America enacted some really beneficial trade laws to see $270 billion more coming in imports from China than what it exported out to China.

        Get a clue, or at least look up some facts to support your asinine statements.


  516. on July 21, 2011 at 10:00 pm Chi

    IP rights in China are ridiculously bad, but in this case are the Macs, ipads, iphones, etc that they are selling legitimate/ If they are i would say it’s much better to mimic the look of a store and sell legitimate products than selling fake products in a non-mimiced store.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:15 pm Bobby

      The writer of this article dared not confirm if this store is selling faked or genuine Apple products.

      Perhaps, a faked store selling genuine Apple products would make this blog less sensational.

      The author is trying to give people the impression that this faked store is selling faked products, when it is selling genuine products.


  517. on July 21, 2011 at 10:03 pm Mari

    how much are the ipads? lol


  518. on July 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm Not Hating On Apple

    Just one thing IF APPLE is not concerned about the fake apple store then why should WE? They said that they still we be opening 2 new stores they are not sending the police to shut them down they are not doing anything because they are still getting paid regardless. Because if i buy a face apple product it might work good for a while but eventually it will start to malfunction and then when they find out that its no good then they will have to buy a new one and so which ever way apple still wins I Say just don’t fall for the name and just cause everyone is getting an apple get things for you and not for style .


  519. on July 21, 2011 at 10:10 pm Joe Clarke

    Ahh western intellectual property rights who but you, gives a toss!
    The west stole the intellectual rights of China’s Silk and Gunpowder not to mention porcelain, then smuggled it’s tea plants out of the country whilst robbing the country of its silver and whatever else they could lay their grasping hands on, at the point of a gun by forcing the people to buy opium that they had diluted 75% with elephant droppings!
    Payback time!


  520. on July 21, 2011 at 10:15 pm JH

    Here is link to photos of the authorized reseller (Xinya) in Kunming (click the thumbnail picture to see more images)
    http://www.apple.com.cn/reseller/map.php?id=931#storeshotA


  521. on July 21, 2011 at 10:15 pm Dipanjan Purkayastha

    Unbelievable; the scale of IPR violation in China, and the State machinery’s complicity in this.


  522. on July 21, 2011 at 10:33 pm luckythirteen05

    Freshly Pressed yesterday, talked about on the Yahoo homepage today. Congrats!


  523. on July 21, 2011 at 10:37 pm B.Canales

    Great post!


  524. on July 21, 2011 at 10:38 pm Homer

    Not to be Buzz Killington, but what I worry about is that the boss is going to clean house in the middle of the night and bail without paying any of the employees that think they are working for Apple.


  525. on July 21, 2011 at 10:39 pm VASTUDARSHAN ARTS & ARCHITECTURE

    apple store unleashed!! nice post, informative.


  526. on July 21, 2011 at 10:45 pm James

    I noticed this has been picked up by the world press ( Reuters is carrying your post ) . I hate to spoil the fun but aren’t these perfectly legitimate Apple Licensed Re-seller stores?

    There are a few here in Shanghai


  527. on July 21, 2011 at 10:47 pm Ed

    at least they spell “Apple store” correctly.


  528. on July 21, 2011 at 10:49 pm oscarvalles

    This is flipping amazing. The level of effort to make a knock off environment is hilarious. This is an incredible snapshot of unregulated free markets. Love the pictures, love the story you told.


  529. on July 21, 2011 at 10:50 pm alvin

    the Kunming “Apple Store” has been around for some years. I think it first started circa 2007. it’s two bus stops from where i used to stay. the only authorised apple distributor in Kunming (at least during the years I was in kunming) is actually an electronics shop near the city’s zoo.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 1:33 am BirdAbroad

      The stores I photographed have all opened in the past couple months.


  530. on July 21, 2011 at 10:50 pm Mr Patel

    classic stuff. I commend the guy that thought of the idea!


  531. on July 21, 2011 at 10:52 pm Richard Butler

    Hey, well done, just picked the story up from BBC News as number 4 most widely read article, great story.


  532. on July 21, 2011 at 10:54 pm Cloud

    Mind Blowing


  533. on July 21, 2011 at 10:54 pm Bornforee

    This gives new meaning to the words “free market”. And why do we continue to give our wealth to this country?


    • on July 22, 2011 at 7:55 pm Mike

      If it weren’t for China buying US treasuries, the US would have gone bankrupt a long time ago. However, you’re correct in the sense that we’ve shipped all our production overseas because the government has legislated American industry into extinction.


  534. on July 21, 2011 at 10:56 pm ruhaz

    anything is possible in china hahahaha


  535. on July 21, 2011 at 10:57 pm Ron

    isn’t it great. At least this Chinese rip-off store owner understands its clientele. It would even be nice if the store owner sold the new Lion OS on a thumb drive or CD. Most of my friends living in China would love to have such a store nearby with impeccable service. After all Steve Jobs do not accepts their Debit Cards and the download speed of the Internet here in China makes it virtually impossible to download the OS. Let’s hope the owner of this store keeps up the good work and show Cupertino how a business should be ran.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 11:16 pm Bornforee

      Your post exemplifies the culture in China of stealing what is not rightfully yours. What gives these people the right to steal? Because the bandwidth is poor? Are you seriously joking? Oh…sorry your government condones this, so it must be OK.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 2:01 pm Rahul

        I have seen a cartoon article, where a company had a pool for fishing, In neighborhood, few more company came, so this company built a wall around its pool. Now other companies started using fishing rod over the wall.
        The idea stealing is rampant all over the world. This is why this IPR and other laws have been enacted. But is it stopped? In many respected research centres, this is being practiced.
        So, though it is your right to cry foul, does not mean that everybody will lend you a ear. Afterall, You also did the same thing at some point.


  536. on July 21, 2011 at 10:58 pm joehoover

    And you’ve made the BBC News website!
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14236786


    • on July 23, 2011 at 7:35 am Matahari

      And the rfi news website too, wow!
      http://www.rfi.fr/asie-pacifique/20110722-magasins-apple-clones-le-sud-ouest-chine


  537. on July 21, 2011 at 10:58 pm Jimmy Lam

    Unbelievable, I bet even Steve Job could tell this Apple Store is “fake”.


  538. on July 21, 2011 at 10:58 pm Jimmy Lam

    Unbelievable, I bet even Steve Job couldn’t tell this Apple Store is “fake”.


  539. on July 21, 2011 at 11:02 pm Kristen

    This wouldn’t happen if they were producing them in the USA. Good job with the site. It’s beautiful and you should do well! :)


  540. on July 21, 2011 at 11:04 pm Binary Options

    Plagarism, copyright infringement, trademark infringement are facts of life in the global marketplace. Unfortunately in countries around the world there is little or no recourse to stop infringers. The only alternative is to stop selling in those countries, which also bears no fruit (they just keep on a stealin’).

    Digital copyright infringement in the US and elsewhere is RAMPANT. Enforcement is difficult in the US… imagine how hard it must be overseas.


  541. on July 21, 2011 at 11:09 pm Clóvis

    O pior é que os próprios funcionários acreditam estar trabalhando para a Apple…

    Pirataria perfeita, quem não conhece os produtos compram sem problemas…


  542. on July 21, 2011 at 11:12 pm tamalias

    Yes I am in Sichuan in West China. I saw a new looking Apple Shop by the recently renovated Sichuan University North Gate a couple of days ago.

    I just went past it in a Taxi, but it had the Apple Logo and the words “Apple Store” on the front sign. It looked like an Apple Shop, rather than a reseller with own brand name. It’s also not listed as a reseller on the Apple China website.

    All this is nothing to be surprised about, but it is funny. Seriously though, why should the people of regional Chinese cities not have access to Apple products? If Apple can’t keep up with demand, others will.

    I say as long as they sell and service real apple stuff, what’s the problem. Having said that, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s all extra product made on weekend production line runs.

    Seriously, what wouldn’t Foxconn do to add to their bottom line? They are building a factory in Chengdu, after all. Can’t get any employees though, so they’re cutting deals with government to get technical colleges in back-of-boondocks county towns to convince their students to start their careers at Foxconn.


    • on July 21, 2011 at 11:35 pm Sean

      Totally agree. Local Chinese with enough capital to know and buy Apple brand wouldn’t take kindly to cheap knock-offs and the fact that the store has been there for more than 2 years means that they sell real products at a mark up or they sell knock-offs that are pretty close in quality. Fly-by-night trickster merchants would be as hated as anywhere in the world and certainly wouldn’t have such a bling store.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 5:10 am Ben

        Agree.


    • on July 23, 2011 at 3:54 am abhishek2014

      I totally agree with tamalias. I live in Kolkata (India), its quite difficult to get apple products through Apple Store if you just go outside Kolkata and most importantly,the service

      There are only two official Apple Premium Resellers (in Kolkata). But you will see lot of “Apple Stores” listed in local business sites.

      I agree that, the China “Apple Store case” is an extreme case.

      But, why we are so much ignored? Most importantly, why Apple is not interested to sell their products in South East Asian Region? Its rare to see an Apple Ad in standard Bengali Newspapers here.


  543. on July 21, 2011 at 11:13 pm Regan

    Hey. I think MOST of us know that our iphones are made in China. Duh. Just because someone comments on the outrageousness or absurdity of these knock off stores doesn’t mean they are anti chinese or ignorant of the ways of the world. Nor does it instantly make them a rah rah sis boom bah flag waving America does no wrong automaton.

    The world is a complex place. There are injustices and hypocrises in every country.

    Having said that….and i hope you can hear me from way up here on my “high horse”….I will take our Freedoms we enjoy here over China’s ANY day. :-P


  544. on July 21, 2011 at 11:19 pm Ana McCarthy

    Kuddos to you!!!


  545. on July 21, 2011 at 11:22 pm tm

    You needn’t go to China to find a fake Apple store. There’s one in South Coast Plaza, here in Southern California. Looks like an Apple store, but it is staffed by a bunch of complete d-bags who treat the store like their private club, completely ignoring customers.


  546. on July 21, 2011 at 11:26 pm Name

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.:) Give the workers in China western wages and workings conditions instead.http://www.minyanville.com/special-features/articles/Foxconn-apple-dell-china-manufacuturing-foxconn/3/22/2011/id/33114 Che-apple-os.


  547. on July 21, 2011 at 11:26 pm Bob Dobbs

    Apple Stoer! Brilliant!


  548. on July 21, 2011 at 11:28 pm tamalias

    I can tell you they will be selling real Apple Computers, there is a demand for them and there’s a good margin to be made. They certainly won’t be tricking people into paying full price for a fake computer.

    While Chinese customers don’t mind paying low prices for what they know to be fakes, they don’t take kindly to being ripped off with full-price fakes.

    It’s one thing to sell a tourist a vinyl “leather” wallet in a market, it’s another thing entirely to try ripping off locals.

    Can’t be sure about the accessories such as power packs etc. though.


  549. on July 21, 2011 at 11:30 pm tamalias

    Yes I am in Sichuan in West China. I saw a new looking Apple Shop by the recently renovated Sichuan University North Gate a couple of days ago.

    I just went past it in a Taxi, but it had the Apple Logo and the words “Apple Store” on the front sign. It looked like an Apple Shop, rather than a reseller with own brand name. It’s also not listed as a reseller on the Apple China website.

    All this is nothing to be surprised about, but it is funny. Seriously though, why should the people of regional Chinese cities not have access to Apple products? If Apple can’t keep up with demand, others will.

    I can tell you they will be selling real Apple Computers, there is a demand for them and there’s a good margin to be made. They certainly won’t be tricking people into paying full price for a fake computer.

    While Chinese customers don’t mind paying low prices for what they know to be fakes, they don’t take kindly to being ripped off with full-price fakes.

    It’s one thing to sell a tourist a vinyl “leather” wallet in a market, it’s another thing entirely to try ripping off locals. Can’t be sure about the accessories such as power packs etc. though.

    I say as long as they sell and service real apple stuff, why should Apple care? Having said that, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s all extra product made on weekend production line runs.

    Seriously, what wouldn’t Foxconn do to add to their bottom line? They are building a factory in Chengdu, after all. Can’t get any employees though, so they’re cutting deals with government to get technical colleges in back-of-boondocks county towns to convince their students to start their careers at Foxconn.


  550. on July 21, 2011 at 11:32 pm Achyut Parajuli

    well done guys… keep it up…


  551. on July 21, 2011 at 11:32 pm Damien Majocka

    Seriously? I’m not so sure I can agree.


  552. on July 21, 2011 at 11:49 pm Isabelle

    I was in Kunming last year, saw an Apple Store, walked in and showed my MacBookPro that needed to be fixed. They had no clue what to do with it… No wonder!


  553. on July 21, 2011 at 11:49 pm Bhaumik Pandya

    Wow, well done apple store rip-off.


  554. on July 22, 2011 at 12:00 am H

    This story is solid genius. I do like how they go to all the effort of faking this a lot better than most of us could, but then completely blow it by writing “Apple Store” on the front!


  555. on July 22, 2011 at 12:00 am JJ

    Detective work nicely done! I live in Dubai and there is a Chinese mall named DragonMart where one can find literally anything. That includes, you guesses it, fake Apple products that are indistinguishable from the real ones, almost. Imagine a fully functional iPad 2 for $120 where you can download apps as well. They even upgrade a few features here and there! However, the downside is that there are no warranties, so one buys at his or her own risk and this has personally thrown me off. However, a few friends have made the purchase they seem to be quite happy with them. You have to hand it to the Chinese!


  556. on July 22, 2011 at 12:15 am SL

    Nice scoop. Saw this here first and then on WSJ.com.


  557. on July 22, 2011 at 12:26 am ebraiter

    The corruption will never end in China. Just too many officials and others filling their pockets.


  558. on July 22, 2011 at 12:29 am Iwassurprised

    I thought china is the heaven of fake LV, GUCCI, Prada.. etc…
    But man! They really prove us wrong!! They really prooooooooooved us damn f*****g wrong. They are so versatile that they can fake everything! Chinese from china, you should applause to yourself!


    • on July 22, 2011 at 4:54 am Fanny

      Uhm … personally i am not too comfortable with this comment. As a HK-Chinese i am not proud of this genius way of earning money. From a Chinese point of view, some Chinese are just dreaming of becoming rich as fast as possible as a way to compensate the old days of poverty. The sad thing is, i don’t trust any products that are sold in the Mainland China, even with the official declarations because they can be faked as well. Of course this cannot and should not be excused, but this is a lot more complicated than what you see on the surface.


  559. on July 22, 2011 at 12:37 am Drinker

    ah i don’t see a problem with it


  560. on July 22, 2011 at 12:46 am carlzthomas

    500k visitors to this website in 48hours according to the BBC and you’re not advertising to it? could have paid for a lot of travelling… could still do – hit me up :)


  561. on July 22, 2011 at 12:50 am Raf

    Bulls**t! Let’s Apple confirm this before you presume it does reach your standard? Every church is different in detail, but same religion. Does Kunming store rock your believe?


  562. on July 22, 2011 at 1:02 am 蒼崎タカシ

    LOL


  563. on July 22, 2011 at 1:04 am chubbychinesegirl

    Too funny… specially that the workers think they are working for the real apple store…


  564. on July 22, 2011 at 1:11 am RobbieChen

    you made the first page of the biggest swiss newspaper :D

    http://www.lematin.ch/

    the writeup

    http://www.lematin.ch/actu/monde/le-mystere-des-faux-magasins-apple-chinois
    ;) )


  565. on July 22, 2011 at 1:16 am Graphical

    I was in Kunming last month and saw these stores. I thought for sure I had finally found a real Apple store rather than the many resellers around. There is no lack of outlet for the Apple products in Kunming; these fake stores are a gimmick as it turns out but they sure fooled me. Of course, I checked the prices and they weren’t bargains.


  566. on July 22, 2011 at 1:27 am Jeff

    Well, why not. Apple take the lion’s share of all the profits that go with every iphone, ipad and Mac made. Despite them being made in China, the workers get paid peanuts, and worked to suicide levels. Yet Steve Jobs and the American government (through tax) gets all the benefits. Why?

    Furthermore, I am extremely sad to see China turn out the way it has. Americanisation/Westernisation on a huge scale – instead of expanding their own, home grown businesses into the big/global scene, they have allowed white stores from America, Britain and Euope to establish themselves en masse in China – McDonalds, KFC, Tesco, Marks and Spencers, CarreFour, Starbucks – where are the Chinese home grown, native stores? Answer – pushed by the wayside. In 50 years’ time, China will look like America – hell they will even speak Eng… American, celebrate Independence Day etc… so much for globalisation, when only one country benefits.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 7:41 am DropADuece

      Apple takes advantage of the Chinese labor because the Chinese government allows it. Organize and campaign against your government for fair labor laws, safer working environments, and Apple won’t be able to make money of Chinese labor anymore. Apple is paying the employees to the standards of Chinese law. Don’t blame Apple, blame the Chinese government.


  567. on July 22, 2011 at 1:34 am futuredave5

    These “stoers” have to be getting their computers from somewhere. If these are low quality copies made by back-engineering, then they will eventually hurt Apple’s reputation. If they are high quality copies made by stealing intellectual property, then they will eventually hurt Apple’s profits.

    China is a very rich country, with a very casual attitude toward intellectual property. Eventually this will lead to corruption, as companies take this matter into their own hands. If the government (of any country) wants to fight corruption, they have to stand up for the rights of inventors and investors.

    Apple is a rich company that charges a premium for their logo. But that does not make stealing from them OK. It is certainly less harmful than stealing from poor people, but it is still stealing.


  568. on July 22, 2011 at 1:34 am Dennis

    There are retail stores and exists all over the world, they are legal and apple has approved.


  569. on July 22, 2011 at 1:40 am Xeifrank

    Kunming is one of China’s most beautiful cities, it is by no means located at “the end of the earth”. :)


  570. on July 22, 2011 at 1:41 am ChasL

    There are apple store looking resellers in US too. For example one on 45th near Univ. of Washington, and another at Redmond Town Center near Microsoft campus


  571. on July 22, 2011 at 1:44 am Wael

    get on a plane and come to Egypt…i’ll take u for a tour to see the fake Apple stores too!


  572. on July 22, 2011 at 1:46 am John

    Thank goodness that it’s Foxconn and not Apple treating their employees slightly better than the average Chinese manufacturer. Now, if this article had been about Walmart…


  573. on July 22, 2011 at 1:51 am jocelyn villanueva

    good job! will repost this on my blog too!!… fake apple store, made in china!


  574. on July 22, 2011 at 1:54 am Sure

    Lol, Awesome! And possible only in China…


  575. on July 22, 2011 at 1:58 am Parimal Thaker

    Did anyone notice, how Chinese have spelt ‘Stoer’ in the last pic? Definite good rip off..


    • on July 22, 2011 at 11:58 pm MacBros

      Yea, I saw that too Parimal. LOL


  576. on July 22, 2011 at 2:09 am John

    There are way more fake apple stores than three. And i saw more being fleshed out last week.

    Probably a booming business printing all the logo stuff right now.


  577. on July 22, 2011 at 2:09 am saulaan

    futuredave5 – absolute best synopsis of the entire comment section.


  578. on July 22, 2011 at 2:11 am Juan Carlos Ramiro Quiroga

    China ha copiado una tienda entera de Apple Inc., en la ciudad suroccidental de Kunming, según informó el blog de un residente extranjero. Plagio tecnológico made in China. Puf.


  579. on July 22, 2011 at 2:21 am jt

    Fake Apple stores story could be a fake

    http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/07/21/fake_apple_stores/


    • on July 22, 2011 at 2:41 am BirdAbroad

      Anyone who wants to visit Kunming and check these places out for themselves is 100% welcome! I’ll point you in the direction of the fake stores.

      Just don’t wield your camera too obviously – might get you in trouble. :)


      • on July 22, 2011 at 11:07 am Bobby

        You unwillingness to post the address of this store for verification shows that this is just an authorized store selling genuine Apple products.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 7:46 am DropADuece

      This blog is not a fake. The fake Apple Store exists and is not an authorized reseller, corroborated by an actual employee from the store in the following article:

      http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/07/21/china-fake-apple-store-clerk-speaks-out/


      • on July 22, 2011 at 5:22 pm Bobby

        That salesman also said products in the store are genuine Apple products sold at the same prices as those advertised on Apple’s website.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 9:09 pm DropADuece

        Just because they are real Apple products does not mean they were obtained in a legal manner. They could be stolen, or factory rejects. They are being dishonest to their customers by portraying themselves to be a legitimate Apple Store, and thus being part of Apple Inc. If someone were to buy a product from them, and it fails, they will not be able to get warranty support from that store. Authorized resellers obtain their items from the proper Apple Channels and all products will have full support. This store is not authorized, so you cannot have any faith in their products.


  580. on July 22, 2011 at 2:22 am Sidharth

    I bet there are many more fake Apple stores trying to make a quick buck or two. Interestingly, the fake stores have, from my observation, been able to rake in money with a better ROI. I think Apple tracking them, filing case is somewhat dim.


  581. on July 22, 2011 at 2:35 am Jasper Leunk

    I need one around the corner. Any phone number of the construction company? ;)


  582. on July 22, 2011 at 2:39 am kiddork65

    The guy leaning on the counter in the blue ‘Apple’ shirt even has the hipster vibe down pat!


  583. on July 22, 2011 at 2:43 am name required

    Does anyone know, if China has Mikerowsoft store?


  584. on July 22, 2011 at 2:53 am Pixie

    Wow. That’s just really all I can say about that one. Just wow.


  585. on July 22, 2011 at 3:08 am Bill Sup

    Thank you China. Truly. It’s about time.


  586. on July 22, 2011 at 3:12 am MisterWriter

    Having grown up in Hong Kong I know that there is a Chinese version of everything. The fact they would go to these lengths is hysterical. But are the units actually iPads or the aPads or ePads that you see proliferating eBay?

    At least a Microsoft rip off store would be less noticeable since their products are quite flawed to start with. http://www.misterwriter.info


  587. on July 22, 2011 at 3:12 am BobtheIPbuilder

    This is terrible – It’s like the bad guy who owns the factory in a small town and has everyone by the nuts. And he’s got his kid running around terrizing the town folk and nobody is willing to stand up and do anything. Our unending need for incremental sales and profits will evenutally be our down fall as China ruins us…I mean absolutely ruins the US.


  588. on July 22, 2011 at 3:17 am James Higgins

    Amazing story. For a satirical take on China’s attitude toward intellectual property rights, take a look at this: http://www.theonion.com/articles/intellectual-property-rights-as-fleeting-as-the-sc,6803/

    Doesn’t really seem like much of an exaggeration, does it?


  589. on July 22, 2011 at 3:58 am fai

    Nice article.

    Youre mentioned in this spanish newspaper today, the main one in Spain:

    http://www.elpais.com/articulo/tecnologia/Descubiertas/China/tiendas/falsas/Apple/elpeputec/20110721elpeputec_4/Tes


  590. on July 22, 2011 at 4:07 am Bobby

    The real apple store does not say “Apple Store”, so how is this store copying?

    Just stupid China-bashing here.

    This is just an authorized store selling genuine Apple products.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:18 am Matt

      This store isn’t listed as an authorised reseller, as stated in the article. Read the post before commenting.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 6:29 am Paul C

      Sorry to sound condescending Bobby, but did you read the article at all??
      It clearly states that the three stores are not listed on the list of authorised stores as you incorrectly mentioned. The list of stores in the Kunming area can be found here.
      This is not a case of ‘stupid China-bashing’ as you have incorrectly stated, but in-fact proof of the blatant counterfeiting which gives the vast majority of genuine, law-abiding Chinese citizens a bad reputation.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 5:01 pm Bobby

        But this faked store is selling genuine Apple products.


      • on July 22, 2011 at 10:01 pm DropADuece

        Bobby, do you work there? That is the only way you would know for sure they are selling genuine Apple products. Even if they are, you cannot trust a store that blatantly lies to customer faces and pretends to be something it is not.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 7:49 am DropADuece

      You need to open your eyes man. An employee from the store in question already came out and said it was a fake. See my previous posts. You are wrong.


  591. on July 22, 2011 at 4:10 am :)

    I totally believe this. I lived in Beijing for a year and I saw fakes of many different things. I actually saw a fake Volkswagon Jetta. My friends and I had to do a double take – but yes, indeed, it was fake. What gave it away was the spelling – “Jaett”. :)


    • on July 22, 2011 at 6:38 am Jacqueline

      A fake Jetta? Wow! I love the misspellings. It’s bizarre to me that people would go to that much trouble to imitate and yet still misspell. What was the funniest English t-shirt you saw?

      My favorite was the one my student in middle-of-nowhere Hunan wore to English corner one day that said, “You f***ing hate me because you f***ing love me.” She was the sweetest, most innocent girl. I asked her where she got that shirt, and she responded: “My mother bought it for me. She knows I like English.” Yikes! Reminds me of the days when Abercrombie had all those t-shirts with the Chinese characters…who knows what people were really wearing…


  592. on July 22, 2011 at 4:20 am echoworldin

    That was brave a one :)


  593. on July 22, 2011 at 4:20 am Vikrant Lahankar

    I don’t see a problem with that. Its just another thing. But great work.


  594. on July 22, 2011 at 4:22 am Vikrant Lahankar

    Whats with the ‘stoer’ in the last pic? :)


  595. on July 22, 2011 at 4:22 am jose

    You ignorants, There´s nothing wrong with the Store, it´s called an IFraud….!!!.


  596. on July 22, 2011 at 4:27 am Dave

    This is a real Apple store, owned and operated by Apple, designed to look fake.


  597. on July 22, 2011 at 4:43 am Toney

    HAHA, i live in Jiang Su near Xu Zhou, three months ago i found another fake Apple Store somewhere close to Wuhan/Hubei where i went for vacation ,BUT, it was funnier than your store because these guys were selling Nokia telephones and other brands too,and when i asked them (hey whats going on ) they simply replied me [ Mei Wen Ti ,Bu Yao Dang Xin ]
    meaning No problem and dont Worry ..
    they are funny, i love them all ,because they try hard and they think to copy is OK ?
    wow


  598. on July 22, 2011 at 4:57 am Maria

    http://www.adn.es/blog/tecnopolis/opinion/20110721/POS-0003-China-clona-falsas-Apple-Stores.html


  599. on July 22, 2011 at 5:06 am goose

    i visited a fake apple store in xian in may – see http://imgur.com/a/xGgdw#0ZL04


  600. on July 22, 2011 at 5:19 am Jose Redondo

    http://www.ionestore.com/main.cfm


  601. on July 22, 2011 at 5:19 am studiomonitorreviews

    Congratulations on making national news. This is absolutely astounding. Love the Engrish spellings on the signs!


  602. on July 22, 2011 at 5:27 am Renee

    As one of the most recognized brands in the world, I can’t say that I’m surprised about these fake stores. Those photos show a pretty convincing, and impressive, attempt.


  603. on July 22, 2011 at 5:28 am Adrian Slew

    Amazing! They will copy ANYTHING! I’ve heard about fake eggs and milk..I wonder if they made an entire, fake dairy farm!


  604. on July 22, 2011 at 5:39 am Alvaro

    haha, it’s awesome! Hi from Spain


  605. on July 22, 2011 at 5:46 am bujjawal

    Guys China will make a fake copy of yourself if you go around shopping for it… lol ….. interesting thing is that not only this is a copy of the product but this is a copy of the entire company…. lol…..


  606. on July 22, 2011 at 5:52 am Abi-ta

    IS A SHAME THAT THIS KIND OF THINGS HAPPEND … :(
    WHAT HAPPEND TO US……


  607. on July 22, 2011 at 5:54 am arturo

    my flatmate works for Apple in SH. they’re opening a lot of new stores.


  608. on July 22, 2011 at 5:56 am Bret Konsdorf

    amazing blog post. hahahah.


  609. on July 22, 2011 at 5:57 am steven allgood

    Technically it’s not an Apple Store… it says right there, it’s an “Apple Stoer”


  610. on July 22, 2011 at 6:08 am ruisu

    This is a very common thing in China, Everything is copy or fake!
    Ha Ha! Apple stores is a small thing, Steve Jobs is lucky.
    That High-Speed railway is a big thing! it copy from where? Japan or Germany? Japanese and German must be cry out for this.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:18 pm Bobby

      The Chinese paid a lot of money to buy the trains from Germany.
      Then the Chinese develop their own technology for their own trains. There was no need to copy. Just stupid china bashing again.


  611. on July 22, 2011 at 6:16 am Sami Jouaneh

    Check out the Fake Apple stores. This is so Awesome! Must go to China!


  612. on July 22, 2011 at 6:33 am Jacqueline

    Wow! I can’t say I’m surprised, but wow. I lived in China 3 years, and I saw many knockoffs, but to imitate an entire store?! Even that surprises me, and I saw a lot of things while living there (lived in rural Hunan, Hangzhou, and & Beijing).

    Do the people in Kunming actually think that Apple opened a store there, or are they in the dark also?


  613. on July 22, 2011 at 6:36 am joe

    Steve Jobs, or Tim Cook should fired their China CEO..

    caz they are NOT opening fast enough!!! China market demands it.. and Apple it’s not catching up…


  614. on July 22, 2011 at 6:58 am storerevealer

    1. Zhengyi Road, Kunming. Surprise, surprise. Not officially listed. So, next one?

    Your turn, gal.


  615. on July 22, 2011 at 7:00 am Deceive

    Haha that is crazy!! I mean, it looks soo much like an Apple store. Lovely find!


  616. on July 22, 2011 at 7:44 am Raymund

    Awesome.


  617. on July 22, 2011 at 7:46 am Benjamin Chiang

    http://benjaminchiang.blogspot.com/2011/07/apple-stoer.html

    Great post, I linked it to my blog!


  618. on July 22, 2011 at 8:04 am j7

    Yes, China has stolen everything of value from the world. Sell your bonds…haha…we are going to default…no problem, China has defaulted before on their obligations.

    I would not be so sure the African nation will take over manufacturing from anyone, with all the money in unilateral trade that China has amassed, they have bought the continent of Africa. They need the resources and the land to feed their billions of people.


  619. on July 22, 2011 at 8:06 am Nonsense

    Apple’s been being ripped off for a long time. I mean think where Microsoft would be if they hadn’t ripped of Apple. Bill would probably be coding for IBM in some cubicle forest.


  620. on July 22, 2011 at 8:24 am john

    big deal. The phones are probably better quality than the real ones anyways.


  621. on July 22, 2011 at 9:06 am MJ

    Will we see a fake Steve Jobs in these shops in the future ?


  622. on July 22, 2011 at 9:09 am Jane

    In China people rarely care about the authorization. If the products are Apple produced, does this hurt anyone?


  623. on July 22, 2011 at 9:28 am tarepanda

    As you’ve heard before many times, great scoop! It’s been amazing to see how far and wide this story has spread — literally around the world. Love the witty commentary in your post as well as the pictures! Apple Stoer FTW.


  624. on July 22, 2011 at 9:29 am mick

    What didn’t get mentioned is just how damn’ expensive apple (and every other) products are in china. It is cheaper to buy an ipad in america or singapore even though they are made in china. Even hong kong has buckled under it seems and now sells at china prices. I was just in kunming and hong kong and went from there to singapore and now shanghai. A pair of levis in shanghai costs $200 at a typical shopping center. How the hell do chinese people afford that? The top of the line ipad2 form the official apple store seems to be about $200 more than the same ipad in the US. I can’t fingure that one out.


  625. on July 22, 2011 at 9:33 am Coupon Corner

    Interesting concept.


  626. on July 22, 2011 at 9:48 am Rod Leung

    A group 16 of us from Seattle just got back from Kunming yesterday. While on our bus on route to Shangri-La, saw the store and it stuck in my mind of what is that ?
    Your posting is timing perfect for me to clarify what I saw is not illusion, but real.


  627. on July 22, 2011 at 9:56 am Walter

    That’s why people in China always come to Hong Kong to buy iPhone, ipad… watches, cameras… dairy products, groceries…


  628. on July 22, 2011 at 10:23 am Bruce

    Great bit of reporting. I saw the LA Times article and sent it on to my Mac user group. Then a group member posted the link to your blog. Very interesting to hear about what’s happening in Kunming. I have studied Chinese history and found it fascinating to read of great changes occurring on a massive scale periodically throughout history. Now I shall follow your blog to learn of adventures in modern China. Mac folk lead the most interesting lives. Thanks much!
    Bruce in Los Angeles

    For those who might be interested in an online Mac user group that is very friendly, a real worldwide social group as well as tech info, check this out:
    http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Mac_X/


  629. on July 22, 2011 at 10:25 am Fanboy Sam

    You don’t have to go the China to see a “Fake” apple store. Go to the Bellevue Square Mall near the Microsoft Campus and visit the new flagship “Microsoft Store” Complete with hardwood floors and nice young salespeople in T-Shirts :)


  630. on July 22, 2011 at 10:27 am lifenbits

    I think you were mentioned in Discovery News:

    http://news.discovery.com/tech/fake-chinese-apple-store-110721.html#mkcpgn=rssnws1


  631. on July 22, 2011 at 10:57 am Bobby

    It seems like the author of this article is not willing to confirm if this particular is selling real Apple products or not.
    I guess the author is trying to portray this as a faked store selling faked products.
    A faked store selling genuine Apple products would be a bit less dramatic.


  632. on July 22, 2011 at 10:58 am Wayne M.

    Most excellent INFO man !


  633. on July 22, 2011 at 11:16 am Dean

    It’s not an Apple Store, it’s an Apple Stoer (the window). Too typical of any other Chinese user manual to have the misspelling.


  634. on July 22, 2011 at 11:29 am Ian

    I don’t see the point of this post. Everything in China is fake and everybody knows these stores are fake. The local people are not stupid


  635. on July 22, 2011 at 11:30 am TY

    Japan – Toyota, Nissan, Sony, Seiko, Panasonic, Toshiba, Canon, Fujifilm, Yamaha.

    Korea – LG, Hyundai, Samsung, KIA.

    China – Apple Stoer, Palsonic, Somy, Niky, Pume.

    Which Chinese company will be a leading force like those of Japan and Korea?


  636. on July 22, 2011 at 11:41 am Expat in China

    Look these knock of stores litter China, I live in what China calls “a little” town and our 4th so called fake Apple store opened last week. To be honest, the photo’s of the Apple stores above are somewhat impressive in comparison to our shoe box size stores. This is not a recent trend. I have been here for a few years and gradually, yes, more have opened. However, A, Is this such a surprise to us all and B, does it really affect you.

    What some of you may not understand sitting at your computers hundreds and maybe thousands of miles away is these stores are actually selling genuine products and also use Apples main distribution centers and Apple’s contracted repair centers.

    There has been a lot of bad press recently regarding China’s stance towards pirated, copied and fake goods, however, China is making progress in these areas and becoming more in line with western policies. But is that such a good thing???

    We all look too our own countries and consider whether feeding these multi billion dollar/pound corporate monsters is such a good thing. Remember its only the people at the top who are getting more stock options and salary increases.

    These stores don’t make a massive profit margin on each item, the pay wage to staff which would make most you cry, $120 a month. Rent for the shop and then more stock.

    These stores tend to shut as fast as they open. The overheads and profit margins are minimal. Basically they are only earning enough to cover costs and keep people in employment.

    And is keeping people in employment such a bad thing. Regardless of copyright or counterfeit goods. Everyone would beg steal or borrow to keep their own families housed and feed.


  637. on July 22, 2011 at 11:46 am Stew

    Steve Jobs can’t hear you. He is busy sleeping on his big pile of money while listening to the finest champagne fall down a gold ingot waterfall.


  638. on July 22, 2011 at 11:47 am Eric Hor

    If the product is real, why the shop is fake?


  639. on July 22, 2011 at 11:49 am Dave L

    Great work! Look forward to any follow-up on this story.

    Apple sells its’ products through its’ own website along with owned & operated brick & mortar stores (only found in 10 countries plus the US). In other countries you can buy from an authorized Apple reseller, or ostensibly, an un-authorized reseller. Of the “un-authorized” resellers many sell actual Apple product but others sell fake/bootleg Apple product. (You can find electronics stores in NYC that sell fake iPhones.)

    The Apple brand is severely damaged when a fake Apple product is bought – it becomes a waste of the customers $ to buy something under false pretense – further, this fake product has no warranty, is not covered by Apple Care, and will probably not work for very long. Apple loses a customer because of the failure of the perceived product.

    What difference does it make if a product is “cheaper” if it doesn’t work like it should or have the support of the manufacturer?

    When iPad was released in the US, there were huge numbers of people buying who were allegedly reselling to China. They were purchased at full-retail and had to be marked up to monstrous levels. Un-authorized resellers either sell bootleg product, stolen product, or product bought at retail and marked up for profit. I don’t believe that Apple allows their legitimate distribution chain to be breached so easily and frequently.


  640. on July 22, 2011 at 11:59 am Wing@Foshan

    Hi there,

    interesting articles, but I am not sure the technical details are correct. I checked apple.com.cn website, there are 2 types of “places” you could buy official Apple authorized products, either via the official Apple Stores “苹果零售店” and indeed there are only 4 of those in China (Beijing & Shanghai as noted). However there are many other listed as Apple authorized reseller “苹果经销商”. And if you check the list for the 2nd category, there are 7 of those in Kunming. The staffs there are probably not hired by Apple, but it doesn’t necessary mean that the products sold there are not authentic/legally imported. Since the address of the store pictured is not included in the article, I could not judge whether it is one of those resellers.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 10:54 pm DropADuece

      One of the employees of the store in this blog already confirmed the store was a fake and not an authorized reseller. See the links at the top of the page.


  641. on July 22, 2011 at 12:05 pm Sami Jouaneh

    Wow, I really want to go to China now.


  642. on July 22, 2011 at 12:07 pm ChinaMan

    As a Chinese citizen who’s spent a large portion of his life abroad, there is one thing about the Western culture/attitude, and those who uphold it, that I find really disturbing: it’s the opinionated self-righteousness. I’m not here to debate the morality of intellectual property rights violations or to defend piracy of any kind. However, please understand this is the reality of life in China. I’m sure with the Author’s extensive experience in China, especially in Kunming, she must have seen the side of society that isn’t shown in pretty tourist attraction posters. For those who didn’t have the fortunate fate of being born with money, shouldn’t they be allowed to make a living doing whatever they can? (as long as they don’t rob, steal, or hurt other people). Yeah, most of the profits from these kind of schemes are probably going to some shyster whose only goal is to make himself rich but at least he/she is creating jobs. For those staff employed in these stores: isn’t having a job better than being unemployed and starving? Would working in a sweat factory like FoxConn producing GENUINE Apple parts be better than working in an air-conditioned FAKE Apple store? Maybe to satisfy your Western sense of “morality” it is, but from my point of view, and millions of poor Chinese people, the answer would be: “whichever makes me the most money”…

    I’m not criticizing the author personally in any way, but rather would like to point out the view that a lot of Westerners who come from a life of, comparatively, comfort and safety have; who, because of their birthright, don’t have to worry about things like food, shelter, safety, employment; who, if I were to place you on Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, would be a lot higher than most of the population in developed countries.

    China is my homeland.. I love it but I recognize that it is a very flawed country with a very flawed government. However, it is NOT your place to judge or criticized us. Back when the economy was state controlled, the Western world bitched about the “evils of Communism and Socialism”…then we opened the markets, and what you see today is the pure effects of supply and demand in a market economy, yet you still complain?

    As the saying goes: Don’t come to me with Problems, come to me with Solutions. And if you don’t have any, kindly F&*$ off..


    • on July 22, 2011 at 5:44 pm Spoiled Americans

      110% with you ChinaMan.
      In addition, let me say that in any country where there exist lost of people that lives in very low conditions there is no place for things like Intellectual Property Right. There´s only place for honest and not so honest people trying to make a decent living in any way they can, to feed their families and maybe if they´re lucky enough, give a good education to their kids.


    • on July 22, 2011 at 11:04 pm DropADuece

      The problems the Chinese people are dealing with right now are almost the same problems the US and other nations were dealing with in the 1900′s. Back when the labor laws were almost non existent and companies would take advantage of the poor people needing jobs.

      Here are some solutions:

      Poor people in China organize and form unions, demand better working conditions, safer working environments, higher wages, and fair labor laws from the government. The Government then enforces those laws and shuts down the sweatshop factories that abuse the Chinese workers if they do not comply.

      As for the counterfeiting, Demand that your Government enact stricter laws regarding Intellectual Property rights that are in line with other industrialized nations, and the Government enforces those laws.


  643. on July 22, 2011 at 12:12 pm Kang Kang

    Good article! My wife lives in Kunming and she was about to go to one of these stores to buy some apple products. I think the one in wangfujing is a premium reseller though so I shall tell her to avoid these stores and go to Xinya.


  644. on July 22, 2011 at 12:14 pm Philipp

    Wow unbelievable. Looks like an real Apple Store.


  645. on July 22, 2011 at 12:15 pm purerush

    wow,its name is “Apple stoer”,not “Apple store”.


  646. on July 22, 2011 at 12:24 pm Jorge Carreon Calderon

    tienda falsa de apple en China y luego por nos meten en problemas con las marcas


  • on July 22, 2011 at 12:45 pm Dasha

    Did they seriously spell store wrong in the last photo? Good god.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 12:47 pm Takashi Oyama

    My product was copied by a Chinese. However, I gave up because I read your blog. I understood that China was a lawless country.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 1:33 pm Jeff

    I am so surprised to see Birdabroad still have so much doubt about China, even after she or he has been living in Kunming.

    These shops selling Apple products are seemingly unauthorized sellers. They are just shops selling iPhones,iPads and iPods ect, and they don’t tell people they are authorized, but they are just selling.

    And to tell you the truth, they are selling real Apple products, and getting suppies from authorized or illegal means.

    Anyway, they are selling genuine things. So, why Apple bothers to take legal actions against these people? They are acturally helping to boost Apple’s sale revenue, not hurting them.

    You can choose not to buy their products, and nobody forces you to buy if you think they are faked. Right?

    As for the IPR issue, since they are selling genuine products, are you suggesting Apple sue them because they use the icon wrongly? As said, why Apple bother to do that?


  • on July 22, 2011 at 1:59 pm Stefan

    Let’s build a replic of the “forbidden city” – so we win the challange :)


  • on July 22, 2011 at 2:02 pm Adwords4u eMarketing (@adwords4u)

    Let’s build a replic of the “forbidden city” – so we win the challange :)


  • on July 22, 2011 at 3:22 pm Michael

    Haha – you think a couple of stores in Kunming is an issue? LOLZ – So i go into one of the main Carrefour (french walmart) branches in downtown Beijing, and venture up to the electronics floor and sure enough there is a large glass kiosk with loads of “iPads” and “iPhones” and that famous Apple sign proudly displayed on a flimsy cardboard cutout… Not only that, but guess what, did you know that Apple came out with a 3-D iPad? Sweet!

    Forces behind the scenes in China could care less (that is a given), but the question then is, I wonder how Mr. Jobs would see his tech stuff being illegally copied and sold in a French-owned mall ? ? A bit more interesting. . .

    Either way, in this city, if you look around on a crowded Subway ride and see a Chinese who isn’t playing Angry Birds on his/her iPhone or iPad, that is unusual. So… I don’t know… but when I see a friggin migrant worker strumming through his playlist, on a phone that is valued at about 3 or 4 months salary for him, I find it funny.

    Get real, no one buys “real” in this country


  • on July 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm nsbane

    Just want to say I’m a Peace Corps volunteer and went to Kunming for language training. I saw one of these Apple stores very close to my youth hostel. I thought it was legit, and played around with the iPads. Having lived in China for a year, I’m surprised – not that it’s fake, but that it fooled me into think it was real. They did a pretty good job.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 3:46 pm Gary Lyn Betts

    Isn’t there a saying something like “Imitation is the greatesty form of flattery.”?

    I think Apple might just be enjoying the moment. lol


  • on July 22, 2011 at 3:48 pm Shaun

    Great article! Very entertaining indeed!


  • on July 22, 2011 at 4:05 pm Emmanuel Ay

    The thing is, if they can copy Apple Stores, what can they not copy? I’ve heard stories of large international truck companies having their products ripped off and sold to a fraction of the price.

    The west is largely built upon intellectual property rights.
    I understand that China is a big market, but who wants to do business (besides huge international firms) in China when complete rip-off is a price you might have to pay?


  • on July 22, 2011 at 4:05 pm Gary L. Betts

    They may have mispelled the name of the store on the main sign, but they spelled it right on the door.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 5:08 pm Bobby

    The writer of this article dared not confirm if this store is selling faked or genuine Apple products.

    Why is it so hard to answer if this store is selling genuine Apple products?

    Perhaps, a faked store selling genuine Apple products would make this blog less sensational.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 5:14 pm seawitch57

    I went to China in 1979 with the Merchant Marine, I remember guards allocated to us for whatever reason looking all over a fridge, at least one of them had never actually seen one before, and they laughed when they saw potato’s!
    My brother has been many times since, he says it’s a modern country now, I’m not so sure about that being the case everywhere.
    Old things have returned with the relaxation of communist doctrine, perhaps the devastating effects of so many people wanting to impress others with Shark Fin soup is among the worst of all? http://www.seawitchartist.com/shark-fin-soup.htm


  • on July 22, 2011 at 5:18 pm CJCarrad

    Counterfeiting is counterfeiting, whether drywall (containing dangerous sulfuric substances that corrode wiring and pipes) name brand silk trousers (that fall apart after 1/2 of a wearing) or critical aviation replacement parts including turbine blades and aileron actuators, nav computers, even phony first growth Bordeaux wines with laser etched “authentication”, and so forth. The totalitarianism of the People’s Republic openly ignores this behavior ostensibly because there is an eager bargain-hunting consumer market in the western economies. No exports leave China without a dominant commercial premise.

    There will be no crackdown on the phony Apple store nor the fake or defective merchandise; it is apparently a thriving business in China, as are all of the rip-off merchandisers. And it is not a surprise that the superficial aesthetics look convincingly “real” Apple, right through to the employees. But is this really any more a theft of intellectual property than the obvious but defective Samsung copies of Apple products? That is a thorny affair as Apple uses Samsung as a mainstream component supplier. And as Apple seeks to command market share in China, the delicate balance of obtaining access to a gigantic market is tempered by the Chinese tolerance of widespread counterfeiting — almost a mark of national pride — and their abiding reluctance to grant repatriation of revenues to American and European businesses.

    No, the Chinese authorities will not intervene, not unless massive loss of life inside China is the result of such larceny, as with the collapsed schools with fake rebar, or crashed airliners with counterfeit engine parts or infant milk poisoned with melamine. When Chinese citizenry are directly affected, the authorities sometimes will act, but there will be no comeuppance for faking Apple. The effect both inside and outside China will be to damage the brand that Apple has so meticulously designed and maintained.

    With the Chinese central bank holding over 25% of US Treasury debt and buying more daily, they have us over a barrel and individual counterfeiting entrepreneurs are lavishing in their advantageous leveraged position. The one possible benefit is that fake Apple Mac Pro servers will not be as useful for hacking into our defense networks, for that they need reliable equipment.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 5:22 pm Spoiled Americans

    Please read the comment of ChinaMan, it´s a good dose of reality and I completely agree with him.
    Don´t take for granted what you have and let other people make a decent living as well.
    And have in mind that the wealth of most Americans comes from the misery of many poor countries around the world.
    PS: If I were you, I´d move out of town.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 5:23 pm 650c

    I’m surprised that the security guards would have been happy to allow an Apple employee to take photos. Unless they were also under the belief that it was a genuine Apple store that was employing their services. There again the signwriter was probably surprised that his apprentices handywork on the front sign never got picked up on either!
    Keep up the good work, it sure is a strange place!


  • on July 22, 2011 at 5:41 pm amty

    Amazing rip … loved it lolx


  • on July 22, 2011 at 6:04 pm OzGal

    Haha. I’m visiting China on business, just till this Wednesday. I saw this report from my hotel only last night on Asia CNN. This morning as I was being driven to an appointment in Guangdong. Then all the sudden we drove past 2 “Apple” Stores. They look great from the outside. Now these ones don’t say Apple Store. They just have the iconic apple. Hmm tricky. Looking at the official retail list, there are none in this province. So I found 2 more this way. How many now are spotted so far??


  • on July 22, 2011 at 6:22 pm Futebol

    WoW!, it looks very similar to a real Apple Store, but are they problems with prodcuts? are they original?

    Regards!


  • on July 22, 2011 at 6:26 pm Jack

    This follows the Shanzhai trend found in China, where there are often copies of popular western products made cheaper. It is a culture of peasant innovation (not to call the Chinese peasants, but to imply that not much money is spent on research and development, but products are made to the demands of the consumer).

    There would not be as much of a market for it (1 in every 5 mobile phones in the world is a “Shanzhai” rip-off) if Apple had its stores there. People would quite happily buy the real thing if it was available to them. Like the Chinese kid who sold a kidney to buy an iPad and a Macbook.

    So before you write these people off as rip-off merchants and cheats, just remember that all they’re trying to do is buy the same stuff we’ve all been advertised.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 6:54 pm Eto Takashi

    この模倣の技術は、それはそれですごいよなぁ


  • on July 22, 2011 at 7:03 pm Das bin ich

    I don’t care it. I don’t like how Apple speculate with their devices. Linux and Windows are working with all kind of hardware. It’s so easy to make an own OS with own hardware… Apple is the new Silicon Valley bubble.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 7:17 pm sullivan

    well i guess , apple exploits cheap Chinese labor in appalling conditions ( case in point ; deaths at the shenzhen factory search it up) , so i guess this is the Chinese way of saying…thank you come again…lol


  • on July 22, 2011 at 8:09 pm lifenbits

    I think you were mentioned also on geek.com:

    http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/fake-apple-store-so-believable-even-the-employees-think-they-work-for-apple-20110721/


  • on July 22, 2011 at 8:14 pm lifenbits

    You must have tons of views. This just went beyond Freshly Press, which is impressive by itself, into a viral post in the web. I just hope everybody using your story would mention your blog and post as a courtesy, but I have found they don’t. I have commented in all of them they should give you the credit and link to your post and added the link. Congratulation on a world wide hot news.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 8:20 pm lifenbits

    There you go…also on the Wall Street Journal:

    http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/07/21/china-fake-apple-store-clerk-speaks-out/


  • on July 22, 2011 at 8:27 pm Paul Bastianen

    That’s when you bring knowhow to China and let produce your products overthere! They start selling your products in China and with the money you brought them, China buys the companies in Europe and USA anyway, or loan countries more than the World Bank to save their need for raw materials


  • on July 22, 2011 at 8:31 pm Marina

    I don’t believe. It’s an amazing post! I link your blog to my facebook. Thank you very much, from Barcelona, Spain.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 8:52 pm Sym

    To the guy that used to live in Kunming in 1986, I’m assuming you were like the only foreigner living in Kunming and the whole province of Yunnan back then. Even now, only about 10 foreigners live in the whole city (or so it seems); I don’t understand why so few foreigners travel or live there…it’s creepy compared to the much more cosmopolitan Asian cities in neighboring countries, because Kunming is actually a very nice city to visit.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 8:52 pm Peter Gessner

    I would like to let you know, Germanys biggest (and imho crappiest) daily newspaper has copied your report incl.photos without mentioning your blog at all.
    http://www.bild.de/digital/computer/apple-store/chinesen-faelschen-apple-store-18974828.bild.html

    I realy enjoyed your article and it totaly pi**es me off that so called journalist sell stories as their own.

    Greetings from Austria


  • on July 22, 2011 at 8:53 pm Michael Hussey

    There is a fake Apple store in downtown San Jose, Costa Rica. I was there a few weeks ago and took some photos of the exterior.


    • on July 23, 2011 at 3:33 am Jorge Asch

      There are no fake apple stores in Costa Rica. There are two official distributors, iCon, and iOne. While their ‘look’ is really similar to Apple Stores, they don’t advertise as “Apple Store’. They both have signage with their respective names on the stores, and “authorized distributor” per Apple regulations.

      Take a look at the downtown store you are referring to:

      http://www.icon.co.cr/galerias_tiendas/tienda_san_jose/entrada_TSJC.jpg


      • on July 23, 2011 at 3:35 am Jorge Asch

        Here’s the other one:

        http://ionestore.com/admin/images/contenido/0269961201_o.jpg

        As you can see they don’t pretend to be Apple, they clearly show they are distributors


  • on July 22, 2011 at 9:06 pm Paul Anderson

    Chinaman, your comments don’t make any sense. The fact is that not obeying intellectual property rights is STEALING. You should know better given you apparently live in the west (btw your English skills are excellent, I have to commend you on that fact).

    However, the fact is that stealing intellectual property rights is tantamount to the same kind of behavior (theft of some goods from a store, for example) that you are saying these people are not engaging in. If the store were simply a retailer selling real Apple products then I don’t see a big problem (even if it’s not an actual Apple store), but it’s already a joke that they can’t even spell. The storefront contains the word “stoer” instead of the “store” written everywhere else. Are the people who put up that sign either dyslexic or just incredibly stupid? I’d say probably a combination of both. Also, please don’t come to me and tell me that English is a foreign language for these people. First of all, English is much, much easier than Chinese to write, and secondly, how hard is it to get a dictionary (and actually use it) or someone to proofread? Come on…

    On another point, there is no air-conditioning in Kunming. Nobody has it because it never gets really hot there.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 9:09 pm elias

    what about all this people losing his jobs..u never stoled any song or movie? u think it’s funny?


  • on July 22, 2011 at 9:42 pm wanna.to

    Well, they are actually not pirates, just went around Mr. Jobs :)
    Phones probably coming directly from the official and legal Apple factory near.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 10:03 pm Mark S

    The Chinese government proves once again that they sh** on Western companies when it comes to piracy enforcement.

    The solution, more companies from the west opening more stores.

    Got to love how the Chinese are laughing all the way to the bank like a bunch of silly capitalists!

    Can’t wait to hear your next blog from chinese prison!


  • on July 22, 2011 at 10:15 pm Machine à sous sans téléchargement

    Really good one guys


  • on July 22, 2011 at 10:19 pm Matthew

    Great post! And to “ChinaMan”, get a clue! Protecting intellectual property is the bedrock entrepreneurs depend on to innovate, take risks, and make profits. I’m a Chinese American who lived in China from ’93-’98 and started my own publishing company there. Piracy was widespread and rampant. The government turned a blind eye to piracy and it obviously hasn’t changed much since then. By not enforcing intellectual property rights, the Chinese government has killed it’s domestic brands. I can only think of one or two international Chinese “household” brand-names (Qing Dao Beer and Lenovo). It’s pretty sad considering China’s position as the world’s 2nd biggest economy. When will the Chinese wake-up, stand-up and irradiate their self-created environment of fraud and piracy? Or maybe I’ve got it wrong and YOU are complicit in allowing OUR people to only be the world’s biggest supplier of oompa loompas.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 10:25 pm KoreaMan

    To Chinaman. I totally get where you’re coming from. I’m of Korean heritage and we’ve had our own share of problems. :)

    So here’s one possible solution. Instead of opening up a FAKE Apple Store with AC, how about opening up a legitimate Apple Reseller in Kunming and creating jobs without ripping anyone off. Just because Apple is rich and Steve Jobs is rich doesn’t mean it is right for someone to steal from his pocket. Even if he won’t notice it.

    There are legitimate ways of providing jobs and spreading the wealth and a lot of Chinese businesses are doing just that. It’s just a pity a few bad apples like this fake “stoer” gives the rest a bad name.


    • on July 23, 2011 at 8:06 pm yifanz

      The fact that the only thing they avoided is the import tax on the product. Smugglers pay people to queue in Apple Store in New York to get products, i.e. they paid a retailed price for those products. Because the demand is high, they can still make fat profit. There were news about when Apple Store opened in Beijing, smugglers try to get all the products so that they can still sell their stock at premium price. Of course, now they mainly smuggle from HONGKONG. But when IPad3 comes out, there will be hundreds if not thouthsands will come from US to China and sell for profits.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 10:26 pm Nanjing

    When you said there was a fake Apple store in Kunming, I was imagining a big, fake flagship store, which would be shocking/amazing to see. However, when I scrolled through your pictures, I realised that I had seen stores like those before.

    What is the difference between a store that has been decorated to look like an Apple store and a fake Apple store? I only ask because I’ve seen two in Nanjing and one in Shanghai. The next time I am in town, I’m going to have to look and see whether they have the words, “reseller” or just an Apple logo.

    One thing that is interesting… When I first came to Nanjing there was only one Apple reseller, in Xinjiekou. Then Nanjing International School, the biggest international school in Nanjing, became a one-to-one Apple laptop school and Apple exploded in Nanjing. The last time I went to “computer street,” I popped into an electronics mall and saw there were equal numbers of Apple sellers:PC sellers. Now when you are in town, or even on the subway, you can see iPads, iPods, iPhones, and Macbooks everywhere. There is now even an official (?) Apple warranty center.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 10:35 pm proof

    The writer of this blog have yet posted any of my comments — still waiting for proof!


  • on July 22, 2011 at 10:56 pm Manish

    Apple must take some real harsh action against them to set an example. This is height of cheating.


  • on July 22, 2011 at 11:19 pm silas

    Hi – great piece – inspired a blog on our site, which i hope you dont mind borrowed very heavily from your observations and images…http://www.jkr.co.uk/design-gazette/

    any more info since you wrote it?


  • on July 23, 2011 at 12:07 am tmsmoleay

    for all the ripping off apple does to china, it’s about time china is repaid.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 12:15 am Justin Gill

    Apple Stoer? Love it!


  • on July 23, 2011 at 12:23 am michael

    this is an interesting phenomenon, but i don’t see the drama here. it sounds like a car dealership. not owned by the car company, but with the name brand plastered all over everything. the sign says apple store. that’s what it is.

    the fact that the employees think they work for apple an amusing side note.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 12:25 am ReallyLateBooking

    Lo que no dicen es si los productos son más baratos o no.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 1:05 am Web designer

    Imitation is the greatest form of flattery but this is going a bit too far. Chinese authorities will be under lot of pressure with this post being covered in so many global news channels.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 1:21 am lifenbits

    You also were mentioned by TIME….they did link you blog and post.

    http://techland.time.com/2011/07/20/fake-apple-store-spotted-in-china/


  • on July 23, 2011 at 2:09 am Tom

    Look at one of the pictures – store name written as “Stoer” not “Store”. Great bug ….


  • on July 23, 2011 at 3:15 am MadAsHellEngineer

    Steve Jobs doesn’t want to protect the intellectual property rights of others so maybe it’s time for a taste of his own medicine – F’em!


  • on July 23, 2011 at 3:27 am wildflowersinohio

    Wow, that was brave! And a really interesting story to share.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 3:31 am Johnny Rotten

    飞回家,鸟!


  • on July 23, 2011 at 3:32 am jehzlau

    Wow! Everybody is talking about this fake Apple store post. O__O


  • on July 23, 2011 at 3:40 am Mummy Ninja

    Wow! 1million+ visits and counting! This fake apple store is all over the news!


  • on July 23, 2011 at 5:11 am kristof

    As long as the store looks good and for sure that store looks great and they are selling genuine product, who cares?
    What’s the difference between Futureshop or Best Buy (in Canada) selling the products or these stores? Sure one is authorized by Apple and the other is not…but that’s China and they think one should simply be allowed to open a store and sell, what’s so wrong with that, isn’t that pure capitalism?


  • on July 23, 2011 at 5:16 am Liu Jian, mountain climber

    I live in Bangu Province. Last week I saw a fake Fredrick’s of Hollywood. I know cus our store’s got crampons.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 5:26 am Bill Gates

    I was walking through this town in California, Cupertino or something, it had a fake Apple Stoer


  • on July 23, 2011 at 6:10 am kmlazarus

    I read this the other day and thought it was absolutely brilliant. I see now that you’ve made it to the BBC. Congratulations!


  • on July 23, 2011 at 6:25 am Ganessa

    Hi Jessica, an spanish neocon news site use your photo without Mentioning your blog for speak about the great Chinese market opportunities Chinese market opportunities


  • on July 23, 2011 at 6:38 am digifiend

    While I could go on and on about the karma aspect of this issue, I won’t.

    What I am amazed at is how sloppy the counterfeiters are at their craft. I dont know about all you folks, but if my aim was to copy a brick and mortar, I would make sure I had my signs and all swag be absolutely identical to the real thing. In years past, that may have been a tall order in China, but not these days.

    Their sloppiness reminds me of poor spam content. At least make the phishing attempt a passable replica of the real thing.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 11:16 am Chip

    Agree with Michael – this is all kind of funny, as long as the actual products are real – especially if the stores are authorized resellers. We bought a Mac Mini in the fake Apple Store off Youhao Sq. in Dalian. The staff was very professional, knowledgeable, and attentive. The computer IS authentic, was priced “normally”, and has worked and updated flawlessly.

    There’s a lot much worse going on in China (re: IPR and other product counterfeiting) than store owners mimicking Apple’s interior design. The worldwide uproar over this report shows how little the outside knows China.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 2:44 pm cnetwork.in

    in romania you can buy pc with mac from apple premium reseller lol the site is macpc.ro use google translate i will write a article soon


  • on July 23, 2011 at 5:29 pm espaciotrazo

    love chinese humour… i mean chinese business!


  • on July 23, 2011 at 5:43 pm Saurabh

    Apple has been overcharging for its products and it’s only a befitting response to it. I purchased an iPhone 3GS just last week in India. Offcourse it was ‘made in china’. Wonder if it is original or not!

    This is a classical case studies for organizations wishing to setting up manufacturing outlets in the world’s most counterfeit economy!


  • on July 23, 2011 at 6:57 pm Copyright is tricky

    People, how many of you have not downloaded a movie or a song for free before? Using, p2p softwares, torrents, etc etc…
    Who fights for these rights? nobody, why are we concerning about a rip-off of a company that earns billions of dollars a year and copies of their products wouldn’t do as much harm as to a singer, writer, or movie director.
    Lets stop judging people and start letting them to make a living in which ever way they can, as long as they don’t harm physically or psychologically nobody.
    Copyright is tricky, just because you had an idea you can become a millionaire and everyone else just.. f**k off? die of hunger for not being so smart?
    I’m not a communist but this is one of the reasons of why the rich people in the world don’t even make it to the 1% of the worlds population and the rest just try to make a decent living.
    So… believe me that if i ever have the opportunity to make money with someone else’s idea, i won’t let it pass.
    Peace.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 7:55 pm Roby Alex

    And who cares about that? The people who buy apple’s products in USA & Europe, and don’t care about the Chinese workers who are beaten sometimes to death in iPhone factories for a missing piece, for $50 a month?
    A great part of apple’s production relies on cheap Chinese work force so that they can keep a big profit.
    Isn’t funny that a Chinese worker has to pay his two years wage on a Apple product he works on to fabricate?
    Actually Chinese people believe that Apple is a genuine Chinese brand, and the US companies are copying their products.
    I read somewhere that the Chinese version of iPhone 4 got dual sim, replaceable battery, and external card slot. So actually it was better than the original, and maybe cheaper.
    Go China! but don’t immigrate here


  • on July 23, 2011 at 8:00 pm yifanz

    Your explaination makes a lot sense. The guy lost his license, and continue to operate like a Apple store and sells smuggles products from Abroad. That explains why he spent all those money on decoration at the first place. About jacking up the price, that’s how ipad and iphone bought in US or HONGKONG in retailers and still be sold in China for a profit. The demand is so high that people actually paying premium for the product. Not mentioning Apple IP, they broke Chinese laws for smuggling products into China.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 8:23 pm Eric3 K

    Apple Store, iPod store, poorly-drawn logos — they’re all the same, right? Here’s one in Poland. https://picasaweb.google.com/eric3knibbe/IPodStoreInPoland


  • on July 23, 2011 at 9:25 pm mobil priser

    It is so sick that they are getting away with it!


  • on July 23, 2011 at 10:29 pm Ozymandias

    Animus towards Apple is no reason to stick up for these guys. They are basically shysters preying on others, including Apple and members of the paying public. One is tempted, of course, to say that Apple itself is a massive ripoff with a slick machine for generating massive profits. But if these guys had their way, there would be no Apple. No nothing at all really. Just a continuing downward spiral towards the cheap and nasty. If Apple didn’t exist they would just be sucking blood under some other guise.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 10:33 pm andy

    I saw a fake Apple Store at the Accra Mall in Accra, Ghana, last week. I didn’t think twice about it until I saw this story, and checked Apple’s site to see that it doesn’t have any stores in Ghana.


  • on July 23, 2011 at 11:54 pm Khusro

    Thank God for these stores. Just over a year back I had trouble finding an adaptor for the iPhone in Shanghai. There was no Apple Store, not even a fake one.

    Either Apple sets up the stores fast or some one is going to meet the consumer demand. The idea of intellectual property “rights” is not to deny the product even to the genuine customer.

    Apple needs to grow up!


  • on July 24, 2011 at 12:38 am Zeddy

    I read an article about a fake Apple store in Vancouver, BC on Vancouver News Blog.

    http://www.vancouvernewsblog.com/2010/12/hp-store-courts-don-cherry-army.html


  • on July 24, 2011 at 5:58 am Call Centre Consultants

    Some interesting thoughts here, definatly agree about the loans thing!


  • on July 24, 2011 at 1:44 pm No Taxes

    LOL, a fake Apple Store sells real Apple products. Apple’s business development team should wake up now. In 2010, Yum! Brands, Inc opened more than 500 new restaurants in mainland China. It’s time for Apple to learn from KFC.


  • on July 24, 2011 at 2:02 pm TR

    As an owner of Mac products for more than two decades, I feel that if the products are real, new (and cheaper) than at a ‘real’ Apple store, and the public knows it’s not an authorized store, I have no problem with this. Apple is way overpriced, more so for the population that actually manufactures their products.

    The way I see it, these fake stores are just like any retailer, only a more dressed-up shop, in keeping with the theme of Apple.

    What amazes me, or not, really, is the fact that such a story can attract a million people’s attention in a day or two, It illustrates the obsession with electronic gadgetry we’ve all succumbed to. Computers and the technology surrounding them have completely taken over our lives. Anybody else notice this, or even care?

    What has become of us?


    • on July 24, 2011 at 7:20 pm Simon

      If you really believe that the products being sold at these stores are real, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. This story is not so much about our obsession with gadgets as much as it is about our obsession with gaining wealth by any means possible – even if this means taking advantage of people in your own neighborhood or city. If you feel that it’s fair to sell inferior goods for approximately the same price being charged for the real products (and yes, the people hawking these fakes sell them for about the same price as the real thing), when you will get about 1/2 the usage out them as compared to the real product before they break, then I don’t know what to tell you. The Chinese will love your gullible nature. Just be sure to bring a lot of money if ever you visit. With your naivete, you’re going to need it.


      • on July 25, 2011 at 5:36 pm Xiao Hei

        These people are selling to the Chinese in China. So, they are the best judges of the products coming out of these shops. We can argue about the fakery about these products, but what has made the stores last so far? Don’t you think their products are at least up to a certain benchmark? Do you think the Chinese people would just pay up a huge sum of money (for them) to buy a product which goes bad in a few days? Do you think no body in China has ever used a Apple product before to know what kind of quality he or she can expect from an Apple product?

        Nevertheless, an average Chinese consumer, willing to spend a considerable sum, is more brand and quality conscious than me or you think (I’ve lived in China for a while).


  • on July 24, 2011 at 2:48 pm Jacob Andersen

    I can’t see anything wrong with ‘faking’ the store. As long as the product he sells is genuine. Come on.. it’s a goddam store!!!


  • on July 24, 2011 at 4:58 pm Adams Jin

    After I read about your blog, I went to the store you mentioned in Kunming.
    That is really amazing…, they do sell the real iPhone, iPad and Mac. In China, you can only say, er…the store is fake, the products is real.


  • on July 24, 2011 at 5:01 pm Gary

    Hi,

    The shop might not a “FAKE APPLE STORE”, but I believe they are just not an authorised apple shop. The product they are selling still a genuine apple products (is not a fake macbook).


  • on July 24, 2011 at 5:27 pm cutie mei

    Borraste mi comentario porque no te favorece. Solamente te gustan los que le echan mas gasolina a la candela y que atraiga mas visitantes a tu blog. Hipocresía y cinismo en esta blogger.
    You deleted my comment because it helps you. Just like that you throw more gasoline on the fire and attract more visitors to your blog. Hypocrisy and cynicism in this blogger. Opportunist.
    Vous avez supprimé mon commentaire, car il vous aide. Juste comme ça vous jetez plus d’essence sur le feu et attirer plus de visiteurs sur votre blog. L’hypocrisie et le cynisme de ce blogueur. Opportuniste.


  • on July 24, 2011 at 7:16 pm Clare Appleyard

    Wow – just seen an article about this blog post in our local South African Sunday paper – talk about making a world-wide splash!

    Great sleuthing, but I can’t help admire the gumption of constructing an ENTIRE counterfeit store. I mean, why stop at flea-markets and the back of a truck? :-)


  • on July 24, 2011 at 10:38 pm deadair666

    well, in a place where i commonly hear my local associates wonder if even the McDonald’s down the street is real… where buying shampoo may or may not have you break out in a rash… where they copy engine prts and make knockoff’s, not good ones, just slapdash knockoffs and ut them in the high speed trains… (search chinese train crash)

    a fake store is no big deal…

    it’s like a hydra, cut off one head, 3 more will spring up.

    the employees, stating that it doesn’t matter, so long as the products are real really echo the general feeling of the public here.

    and, the store copying the look of a real apple store? OF COURSE. The idea of copying the look of something is considered on the norm here. try to look at it in a different way. folks associate certain products with a certain look. and within a communist country, where not so long ago everything was boxed to look the same, even the people (grey commie clothes anyone? short cropped bobs on the girls,,,,)

    When Burger King opened,,, YongHe King opened KING/KING one sells burgers, one, noodles, both are cheap fast food places, and King is already associated with fast food, so… (In N Out anybody?) JACK HUT Tea shop, (Pizza Hut is huge here, so use the word HUT) ICE STORM (complete with mountain Dew-esque logo)

    Hell, even the toothpaste dude from the Expo was ripped off from a Chinese refrigeration company… http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/luobote/oldhaibao.jpg

    I’ve talked to some of my local associates here, and they really don’t get why the store is a fake, when the products are real…

    unfortunately, we’re dealing with a different frame of mind. and one that’s not so necessarily devious. when it comes to intellectual property

    i’d worry more baout the shoddy workmanship


  • on July 25, 2011 at 7:26 am Richard Wang

    I am a Chinese from Wuhan, a second tier city in middle of China. We have many so called “fake stores” here. However, as long as they sell real apple products, they do good for local consumers. Also they pay tax to government as well. They do help Apple to increase brand awareness. So good job for those creative Chinese people.

    Apple actually wins from this. No need to set up apple stores everywhere in China, considering it has more than 4000 counties and 400 cities.

    NEVER DO BUSINESS IN A 100% WESTERN WAY IN CHINA. It is just another business world. But once you understand more about the market, there will be more chances and fun.


  • on July 25, 2011 at 10:24 am British Mensa

    So weird what’s happening with Angry Birds and other programs/apps too apparently. Most will ask, What’s a patent troll? Not heard of them before myself but when people are scared of creating technological advances because they stand to get sued by patent trolls and that wipes out the value of any innovations they’ve made then the law has gone too far and needs to be reviewed. This is another area where it’s actually against the communal interest not having free legal aid available.


  • on July 25, 2011 at 10:41 am lifenbits

    CNN

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/07/24/nr.rip.off.apple.stores.china.cnn?hpt=hp_t2


  • on July 25, 2011 at 12:23 pm Apple Stoer

    Could someone please tell me what the pricing is at these stores? If so does anyone have addresses or numbers??


  • on July 25, 2011 at 1:06 pm Mila

    Haha. )


  • on July 25, 2011 at 1:06 pm John van Dulmen

    Nice article, but a little bit naive!
    If you think that Apple is bothered or concerned about the fake Apple stores, you’re wrong!
    Without opening stores themselves and without any costs, they are selling many, many additional Mac’s, iPad’s and iPhone’s. (the procucts sold in those stores are genuine Apple products!)
    Why is it that Apple does not take any legal steps agains those stores? Now you know!


  • on July 25, 2011 at 2:57 pm Nick Kellingley

    Always interesting to see how much anti-Chinese rhetoric comes out in discussions like this. For the record China’s pretty good at closing down fools who appropriate IP like this – because it’s very hard for them to run away when the lawyers show up. Now Apple know, they’ll be gone soon.

    For proof of this watch the first day of any major trade fair or public sales fair in China, the lawyers descend like locusts and half the stands are black bagged by 10 a.m.


  • on July 25, 2011 at 5:16 pm Michael

    Officials close fake Apple stores in Kunming city, China
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14273444


  • on July 25, 2011 at 5:17 pm Michael

    Officials close fake Apple stores in Kunming city, China.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14273444


  • on July 25, 2011 at 5:26 pm Xiao Hei

    I agree with the above comment by Richard Wang. Who in their right minds would travel all the way from a small province in China to Beijing or Shanghai just to buy a apple product? If I can get the actual product from a fake shop in the neighborhood, so be it! I’m assuming these shops do sell the actual Apple stuff or else they might have been shut down long back anyway. Buyers in China are more picky than their western counterparts and the cost of Apple products is not all that cheap for them.

    The only issue I see here is that these shops don’t pay royalties to Almighty Steve. Which, in my opinion, is the best part of this story! :-) )


  • on July 25, 2011 at 6:14 pm west_hornet

    no industry, no IT companies, no creativity…
    no brains…
    China & India just grow up buy pirating western brands,
    conterfiet products;even copying western technologies, manufactures, & sciences.

    Helped by underpaid workers & salaries.

    This will end up bad for one or another side…


  • on July 25, 2011 at 6:28 pm Alex

    So it turns out this shop was not fake after all. It turns out to have been perfectly legit business?


  • on July 25, 2011 at 8:12 pm Trolleira

    Yeah right, we lived in Changsha, Hunan, and never knew which Sporting-goods-, DVD-, Clothes-, etc. – Store was a fake and which not, let alone the selled goods…
    Loved your article – it is sooooo true!

    And @Richard Wang, it is not true, that Apple wins from this – they always loose, as you can read from the article, the job was done badly and the reputation from apple ruined. I think, it is just bad behavior to fake someones original and get a profit out of it!


  • on July 25, 2011 at 8:37 pm Qeqe Nachumama

    I live in China, been here for 10yrs and I don’t see why you can’t publish their address. Making it sound more dramatic than it should eh?


  • on July 25, 2011 at 8:49 pm Qi

    You have put a lot of people who were selling real products (in China…..) out of a job and done a great dis-service to all of us who want to buy the real apple product without having to travel all the way to Shanghai or Beijing. To put it in your own American context: for most of us, it’d be the equivalent of travelling to NYC to buy an iphone when you live in Oregon! Thanks very much for your courtesy to expose those who sell the real thing.


  • on July 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm Andrew Richards

    Another example of China’s Achilles heel – supply chain integrity. Fake apple stores, tainted pork, ink in noodles, melamine in milk, zinc substitution in plumbing fittings leading to failure, lead in paint, rebar removed from school buildings, corrupt officials…. Chinese people should be as enraged as anybody over this issue. It is a symptom of a more serious problem – Chinese children are being sickened and killed from the results of a misconceived notion that deception is a form of good business. Seems like IP protection / integrity means a safer life. Chinese people deserve that better life.


  • on July 25, 2011 at 9:51 pm usefkl05

    To those who say that as long as the products are genuine, “who cares if the store is fake”, I’d say that when I (and probably most people) go into a branded store there are some expectations, not just for the product to be the real deal, but also in regards to service. In those fake Apple Stores, the aftersales services might actually be equal to any shop in the Apple Store network, but there’s no way to tell in advance since it’s a fake. The store has been made to look that way with the express intention to dupe the customer. If the store really offers great products and services, why not use it’s own look (and show the “great creativity” of the local people)?

    Just because I can brew delicious coffee it doesn’t mean it’s okay for me to put up a fake Starbuck, does it?


  • on July 25, 2011 at 10:01 pm حجوزات الفنادق

    Good post.
    thanks for sharing..


  • on July 25, 2011 at 10:54 pm Liam

    Well-written, well-formed, nicely photograph-laden post. You’re now famous!

    I’m sure it must bother the zillionaires in Cupertino to have some industrious Chinois mocking, or mocking-up their diorama in Province nowhere… But I remain sympathetic with the local Chinese thinkers and re-tinkers, who had the wise idea to profit off of what they actually do build.

    Let’s not miss reality for a grand stand on “IPR.” China builds and owns America, and all we consume here. If we want to complain about it, then the “Infinite Loop” company should consider paying North Americans to build their fantastic (and fantastically expensive) kit.


  • on July 25, 2011 at 11:55 pm cyndi

    Hmm… exploited Chinese workers make “real” Apple products in China… exploited Chinese workers make “fake” Apple products in China…
    I’m confused, why are we upset about the second scenario? Do we really care more about a multinational brand than worker’s rights? Sad. Boycott Apple.


  • on July 26, 2011 at 1:08 am Tom@HMII

    It’s amazing what China can get away with. I thought China was supposed to be a country that came up with creative ideas, not rip them off? Great story, BTW. Amazing how you were able to spot the difference, I don’t think I would have thought twice, lol.


    • on July 26, 2011 at 11:31 am UltraNEO★

      China being creatively Innovative???
      Sorry, what books did you read that from? Sure it wasn’t a counterfeit?


  • on July 26, 2011 at 2:13 am TschioBpastitzchyo

    Fake Apple Stores in China! We might find some real Genius there!


  • on July 26, 2011 at 3:37 am Laurence Oliver

    Does the children’s store at 59th st and 5th ave have an Apple area?


  • on July 26, 2011 at 5:20 am dmitry

    АХРЕНЕТЬ


  • on July 26, 2011 at 8:21 am Auspicious Wedding Dates

    Ugh, ripoffs are so rampant nowadays.
    Thanks for sharing this interesting observation for those of us who can’t visit Kunming.


  • on July 26, 2011 at 8:30 am me.

    I dont know why this has become such a “headline” everywhere. There are so many “fake” stores and copied other things and its been so for ages. Why is it suddenly a news only because its Apple?


  • on July 26, 2011 at 10:57 am Michael

    Hi,

    Great post, FYI your expose has actually made a difference. Great job, too bad the monopolists at Apple are the beneficiaries.

    http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/Chinese-trade-officials-find-capress-2070376468.html


  • on July 26, 2011 at 10:58 am Michael

    Hi,

    Great post, FYI your expose has actually made a difference and made international headlines here in Canada.

    Too bad the monopolists at Apple are the beneficiaries.

    http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/Chinese-trade-officials-find-capress-2070376468.html


  • on July 26, 2011 at 11:11 am ethandnl

    The silhouette ads are a dead give-away. They’ve been out of commish since 2004!


  • on July 26, 2011 at 1:05 pm D@nilYcH

    Haha, I thought they are selling fake products in fake store


  • on July 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm acemck

    s’cuse the dbl. somehow i ended up in the middle

    http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/07/china-closes-apple-stores/


  • on July 26, 2011 at 1:53 pm Amy

    This is definitely not new. In fact, making counterfeit products and copying are the two things the Chinese are good at and have been doing for many many years. Only now the so-called global market has opened the floodgate for these Chinese to dump on the market with their junks AND they get real rich as a result.

    So, it looks like the West buy junks and fake stuff from the Chinese and they turn around and the West’s money to buy the real and good stuff from the West. No wonder there are so many Chinese living well in California and else where in America!


  • on July 26, 2011 at 3:25 pm dK

    Is anyone surprised?
    Communism is one hell of a drug!


  • on July 26, 2011 at 3:28 pm computer new 2011

    Loved your article – it is sooooo true!

    And @Richard Wang, it is not true, that Apple wins from this – they always loose, as you can read from the article, the job was done badly and the reputation from apple ruined. I think, it is just bad behavior to fake someones original and get a profit out of it!


  • on July 26, 2011 at 3:31 pm Lace

    Thank you for sharing this story, it will remind every shopper to exercise due diligence especially when shopping abroad, not only for Apple products but with any other brands. Taking a minute to check out the official website and view the list of authorized shops can save a lot of tears.

    I’ve also shared this story to our community.


  • on July 26, 2011 at 9:08 pm Franklin

    Good articles about the rip off stores, isn’t it time you set up ads on your blog to earn a decent income from the influx of traffic :) ….Just my little 2 cents.


  • on July 26, 2011 at 11:15 pm jj

    half of the commenters didnt even read the article, such idiots!

    To the person saying Apple handed jobs to China, the jobs were never in the USA in the first place. Tech factories have been in asia for a long time. Foxconn makes nearly all of the iPads and iPods in the world between Zhengzhou, Chengdu and Shenzhen. It’s real s****y conditions, but they have to help pad Apple’s cash that they are sitting on. I really hope Apple starts to step it up with this s**t. Foxconn has the worst reputation in China, but people are desperate for jobs, it’s very sad


  • on July 27, 2011 at 12:08 am havingabubble

    Love it! Congrats on being Freshly pressed, and on your news coverage too ;-)


  • on July 27, 2011 at 12:26 am J. C. Villar

    How do you know the Starbucks is real?


  • on July 27, 2011 at 12:28 am Laptop Batteries

    Hi,

    I saw a store in Nanshan province in Shenzhen – in one of the malls. I suspect that it is also fake….will be visiting there next month. Will take pics and update all on the same. Thanks for the wonderful article, and bringing this across to us.

    Your next article should be the fake brand name apparel, accessories and beauty products in China that are selling like hot cakes.


  • on July 27, 2011 at 1:15 am doesnotmatter

    at least did you get any money from apple?, apple will just ignore who you are, and still be manufacturing that mind-blowing hipnotizing product for the masses


  • on July 27, 2011 at 6:07 am Analysis

    Awesome post, I wonder if we can organize a team to find more of these stores in other cities in China.


  • on July 27, 2011 at 11:03 am glen

    Wake up do gooders Why only China try most of South East Asia which is Commercial central of the would Copying is nothing new here and sometime the copies are better that the original and at a far far better price and you can bargain too.


  • on July 27, 2011 at 7:09 pm Dads Taxi

    Loved this article, congrats on being Freshly Pressed and making the news!


  • on July 28, 2011 at 10:48 am Nick

    Hey Birdabroad. I’ve got a curious question I was hoping you could answer. Do you have any idea of how this story went from your blog to the mainstream media? Was it picked up by the twittersphere or did it find it’s way through some other way? (I first saw it on Zite)

    Thanks


    • on July 28, 2011 at 11:20 am BirdAbroad

      We’re not clear on what happened either :-) My husband and I put the link on our Facebook and Google+ pages, went to bed, and the story was already moving when we got up the next morning. Looks like it got to people on Twitter who have lots of followers, then got picked up by some Apple-focused blogs, and from there into the mainstream media.


      • on July 28, 2011 at 1:17 pm Nick

        Thanks. The internet sure is an amazing thing…one minute you’re blogging the next BBC are reporting the closure of the stores.


  • on July 28, 2011 at 12:49 pm rsheffer

    What happened was that I posted it on Google Plus and I have a guy called Benjamin Cohen following me there. He works for Channel 4 news in the UK. He was the first person to run the story and from there it just went viral to many other news people! Jessica if you check the times you will see that my posting was the first ;-)
    Ruth


  • on July 29, 2011 at 6:47 am PS

    If they are selling Apple genuine products it is effectively an Apple Store, Ok, it might not be owned by Apple Corp (NYSE:APPL) but said they have the sole right to decorate a retail store> I this IP issue is now across window shopping? that is nonsense. They can decorate their store any way they want.


  • on July 29, 2011 at 10:39 pm Raphael Ryan

    Why do people think this is funny? This is a point-blank and blatant copyrigt or at the very least a “trademark” infridgement, attempting to profit through fraudulent acts… These PEOPLE have quite a nerve doing this… Apple have taken such great lenghts to esablish a brand even in their stores, and such unimaginative fraud activities should not be condone…no matter what their NATIONALITY is.


  • on July 30, 2011 at 9:58 am patrickcashman

    hahaha that’s unbelieveable, how do people get away with that!?


  • on July 30, 2011 at 8:55 pm comprar websites

    Did you get any reward from Steve Jobs?
    You deserve it,they have a department just to find out counterfeit stuff.
    We shoul all sign a petition to help get a present from Apple
    Good luck


  • on July 31, 2011 at 12:07 am admin

    I enjoyed reading this post… Great report.


  • on August 1, 2011 at 1:00 am AdultCentre

    I really love this post. thank you so much


  • on August 2, 2011 at 12:38 pm Zack Rules

    In the Republic of Ghana, there is an Ipod Store in one of the main malls of its capital, Accra, which I doubt is operating with the explicit approval of Apple Inc.


    • on August 2, 2011 at 12:42 pm Zack Rules

      Seriously, your find in Kumming is just one of many, many others found throughout the world.


  • on August 2, 2011 at 1:17 pm AF

    Apple got what they deserved with their proprietary nonsense, hope they go down like Compaq in the 90′s.


  • on August 2, 2011 at 11:29 pm Leigh Lasher

    Wow, i was in Kunming a couple of years ago and you are totally right on how fast things change. But an Apple store what a laugh. I wonder if the Walmart i was in was real?


  • on August 3, 2011 at 12:52 am 约翰李

    I used to live in China, so what is going on. I saw it every day, all over the place and really do not care. It is the fault of American companies who became so damn greedy and shipped over their jobs over to China to have people create their expensive products for pennies on the dollar. So many cities in china are full of slave labour.

    If American companies kept making their products in the United States, this would not have happened.

    When you make electronics and all their conductors, (everything needed to make a device) and the shell, what do you expect? People need to live and eat right?

    In the United States, we want everything Cheap. Back in the late 1980′s my mother purchased a VHS player by the American company called Zenith. It was made in the United States. I believe she paid around $400 for it, so she said, but it lasted 18 years ($22 a year). So in the end, she got her monies worth. She only purchased their television sets too, Zenith was known for great tv’s. Sadly, they are out of business, they could never complete with inferior made Chinese goods.

    Today, you can buy a cheap VHS player made in China, for probably $22. Of course, it will only last you a few months, before it starts having some problems with it.


  • on August 3, 2011 at 4:08 am Tor Sigurdson

    Kunming now have fake IKEA stores as well:

    http://www.brandchannel.com/home/post/2011/08/01/China-Follows-Fake-Apple-Store-With-Fake-Ikea.aspx


  • on August 3, 2011 at 4:14 am gabriel

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  • on August 3, 2011 at 4:26 am Cynthia Grossman

    the chinese rip off absolutely everything, has anyone checked out that recent yahoo article about making a fake ikea store? the chinese government needs to start implementing and enforcing copyright and trademark laws.

    Cynthia G.
    Vent


  • on August 3, 2011 at 3:15 pm julius

    This is wow in china even iKEA also have fake…..


  • on August 3, 2011 at 10:59 pm Roy

    i am looking for the list of authorized apple genuine re-seller , if any one can help me, my email id is royjohn@marasim.ae.


  • on August 4, 2011 at 7:14 am realanonymousgirl2011

    Wow that’s crazy! They could’ve fooled me!


  • on August 5, 2011 at 11:59 am Yeah, Mac! - David

    Excellent post! I heard about this on a podcast before and it was just too stupid to believe. It’s awesome knowing that someone actually went in depth to see what’s actually going on with those stores.


  • on August 9, 2011 at 12:15 pm GurjeeT

    Nice blog really look like great.


  • on August 11, 2011 at 3:34 pm box

    NICE BLOG ! THIS IS IN CHINA ? IPHONO , I LIKE IT !


  • on August 12, 2011 at 12:41 pm Peter

    Apple is not a company that actually makes anything. It just designs and markets computers and phones. The Chinese don’t manufacture fakes or knock-offs of anything. They just make more of the real products, in the same factories, than authorized by marketing companies like Apple.


  • on August 13, 2011 at 1:22 am thecanonsniper

    lol…. just read the article . Talk about going all out on the ripping off APPLE. i started laughing when i saw the pictures …


  • on August 13, 2011 at 12:47 pm Rp4000

    APPLE ONLY HAS TWO OFFICIAL STORES in CHINA . BEIJING AND SHANGHAI . ALL OTHER STORES ARE 100% Fake. Apple is opening 5 more stores in CHINA to bring the total to 7 REAL STORES in CHINA? If apple wants to make a dent on any of this crap they need to go to EVERY Major City in china and close all the fake apple stores.

    I have lived in Shenzen for over 2 years, (im american) we have the largest electronics market in the world here ( hua qiang bei) if you go to this market you would see 1,000+ stores all with simular designs (but not exactly the same) looking and selling real apple products. plus we have the another special market (that endgadget did a review on) that sells all original phones/computers/ipads/tablets . it is crazy what they can get away with here and im very surprised that apple doesn’t do shit about it. The stores here love to put the words ” Authorized Reseller” in english and in Chinese , plastered on the front of the stores.


  • on August 13, 2011 at 3:42 pm SteveJobs

    Thanks for the tip-off BirdAbroad. Sorry my email’s not working just now.


    • on August 14, 2011 at 12:14 am BirdAbroad

      Thanks for finally getting back to me, Steve. ;)


  • on August 14, 2011 at 8:34 pm Juno

    Poor Apple wall street types, and especially Steve Jobs – now reported to be living on food stamps.


  • on August 14, 2011 at 8:48 pm shinki

    man too funny! :D


  • on August 16, 2011 at 11:44 am Alice

    Wow , It’s Apple . I like it ! I hope to buy Iphone 4 .


  • on August 17, 2011 at 10:07 am Daniela Rios ☠ (@dannrd)

    La tienda apple de madero no es la única pirata en el mundo! jaaaa


  • on August 18, 2011 at 8:28 pm Lauren

    haha not even an ounce of this comes as a surprise to me after living in China for a year.


  • on August 19, 2011 at 10:33 pm Thiago

    China has the world’s fastest growing economy. China is undergoing remarkable and rapid change. This represents a unique moment for a society changing as quickly as China. However, there are a lot of side effects, for instance, even though the economy is growing fast, some Chinese people can catch up that ethically like apple stores which are located in some part of China that is fake. Apple is one of the best electronic product brand, so they try to follow the trend, nut it is wrong way to catch up the trench. Although China is huge country and growing fast, if they keep these kind of behaviors, the development is not go last.


  • on August 24, 2011 at 9:48 am Tharms

    It takes money to do things, to build things, to tear them down, and to then rebuild them. And the things that are built typically have to pay off before they can be torn down and rebuilt again, or else money is lost — the investment in the hours of people’s lives are lost. Right now, the entire world is buying into the idea that China is this sudden, out of the blue, capitalist success story, where money apparently grows on trees and and buildings don’t have to be paid for before they are torn down and rebuilt again. One doesn’t need to see the photos of the brand new empty cities in the Chinese interior to be a skeptic, to realize the something about this doesn’t quite add up (literally).

    Is China printing money, just like the American Federal Reserve? Are they merely adding numbers to the books, and feeding the fiat to the friends and family of the central committee elite? Has China become a kleptocracy, just like Russia, but without the revolution? If so, all they are creating is a bubble, just like Greenspan created here in the U.S. and which Bernanke is desperately trying to create again. Except in China the bubble will be massively larger and with little to back it up in the way of actual savings once it pops. What will be the consequence of that to the world economy? What will be the consequences to the countries for which China holds debt (and was that debt bought with real money or phony money)?

    The banksters of the world don’t all speak English, but they do all play the same shell games — and those games are getting risker and risker as they keep doubling down on a system that was always doomed by its lack of value and innate corruption. Islam may have its wacky aspects, and crazy practitioners (what religion doesn’t'), but its prohibition against usury, and, more importantly, its call for full reserve banking is infinitely more moral than what is going to be the result of the fraud we call fiat central banking and fractional reserve lending. (The rising interest in and success of Islamic banking as a realistic alternative may be the real reason behind the recently chaos in previously stable Middle Eastern and North African countries. Central bankers were mostly likely behind the assassination attempts on Andrew Jackson, and the international banking community was only in its infancy then. Just imagine what their resources and commitment would allow today?)

    Since the world abandoned the use of commodity based currencies that had intrinsic, measurable value, human history has become one of constant, near worldwide chaos as governments have used war to bail out their bankrupt economies over and over again. It will continue that way, unless we chose to purge the cons and gangsters, and revert back to sound systems.


  • on August 26, 2011 at 5:24 pm dave

    Business is Business , China is a rapid growing economy and we have to applaud that


    • on August 29, 2011 at 4:42 pm Sophia

      well said


  • on August 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm Radionics

    Unbelievable.. only in China. Such blatant disregard for intellectual property.


  • on September 1, 2011 at 2:18 am bob

    Awesome article


  • on September 1, 2011 at 9:32 pm Mark Johnson

    It is a real shame what happened to Steve Jobs after seeing a photo of him over the last couple of days. I hope he gets better soon.


  • on September 3, 2011 at 12:04 pm Kitchen Cabinets Plano TX

    The fact the sign says “apple store” is pretty strange because they never say that on the sign. But they sure made them look pretty realistic otherwise.

    Being that there are 3 fake Apple stores in that area alone makes me wonder how many fake apple stores there are in China. Could there be more fake Apple stores in China that real ones in the USA? I could not find the number of stores in the USA, but I did read there are 500 Apple stores in the world.

    You have to wonder, if there are so many fake Apple stores in China.. filled with fake Apple products… how much counterfeiting is really going on there? I mean if they are doing Apple stuff.. WHAT ELSE are they doing knock offs of? Are they really knock offs or are they making them at the same factory at night when it is supposed to be closed? Overall it is pretty shocking that they can fake the store AND the products.


  • on September 6, 2011 at 4:53 pm Josh

    This is genius.

    However it is pretty disturbing. You don’t see fake Wal-Marts or GAPs around. Such is the branding power of Apple!

    Great report.

    -Josh


  • on September 9, 2011 at 4:21 pm Jaqaqa Bruchu

    Well, Apple can only blame itself for this. Yes, what the Chinese do is outrageous by Western standards (!). True. But any responsible businessman doing business abroad should first get to know the target culture and adapt its strategy accordingly.

    Apple obviously was not aware of the simple fact that the Chinese will copy everything you throw at them shamelessly; and even worse, they will never apologize for it and there is absolutely no way to sue them in China. Putting together these three simple facts (which were known for centuries, so Apple has no excuse not having known about them) the first big mistake was to place production plants in China, the second was to allow any Chinese person to sell these products within China.

    When these two decisions were made, these fake Apple stores, fake Apple products, etc should have been anticipated well in advance and counter-measures should have been formulated. Not today, not now: THEN, many years ago, in the planning phase.

    If anyone is surprised NOW, he or she only demonstrates the Internet community how little he or she knows about the Chinese culture. You do not need to live in China for decades (like some of us do) to figure such simple things out. There were travelers centuries ago who described exactly the same phenomena in their travel books. All one needs to do is do one’s homework right.


  • on September 11, 2011 at 5:42 am Gordon

    They’re not going to let fake Apple stores exist. These will be closed as quickly as Apple can get the Chinese authorities to act (which might take years).


  • on September 28, 2011 at 7:00 am ip intel

    how are the prices?


  • on September 28, 2011 at 10:18 pm John Fanai

    I just posted another fake apple store.

    http://johnfanai.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/another-fake-apple-store-in-china/


  • on October 2, 2011 at 10:54 am gobbledegok

    Brilliant. Just brilliant.


  • on October 17, 2011 at 11:04 pm nordsmetal

    good article

    R.I.P.


  • on October 18, 2011 at 10:12 am Ripped Off in Singapore

    On the surface Apple looks clean as a whistle, they maintain high standards etc.
    Recently I was ripped off by store in Singapore and I knew I was being ripped off in classic Singapore style. The hawker gave me a price and then he kept adding to it after he registered the iPad. I let it go because I had no time (I bought an iPad for my wife, a cancer patient, who was waiting for me to get back quickly, I wanted to surprise her) for the usual threats and bullshit. “Already registered lah, cannot give money back now lah etc”.
    I complained to Apple Singapore and apparently this kind of hawker behaviour is allowed there.
    I bought the iPad from a normal looking electronics store, not an Apple store.
    Does anyone else have a similar experience ?


  • on October 18, 2011 at 10:51 pm Jason Lu

    Shame to be a Chinese to know that but surprised with the skills they’ve gotten to be “SO REAL”. Urr….ah… damn it .. we’ll never get IP rights straighten out!

    Some guy:Maybe we probably should change its name to “Snapple Store”. Another guy:Nah…then we’ll be getting in trouble with Snapple not Apple.
    Third guy:Hey! What’s the difference? They’re all American’s.

    LOL!


  • on October 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm Jason Lu

    Gosh, I just noticed that the owner of the so-called “Apple Store” couldn’t even get the spelling right for the word “Store” in the last pic.

    LOL:)


    • on October 20, 2011 at 7:56 pm shankar

      Go ahead and kill this thread.


      • on October 20, 2011 at 8:39 pm BirdAbroad

        Good point.

        Thanks for your participation everyone!…



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